For years the scandalous kind of the coming union from division during the Pope fairs on the Saint Peter's Square, practiced, carries fruits. On Monday an American sold a communion wafer, which was pressed him during a Pope fair into the hand with e-bay. The konsekrierte communion wafer changed the owner for 2000 dollar.

(kreuz.net) with the hand coming union one can make money. In the internet auction house e-bay on Monday a communion wafer obviously konsekrierte with a Pope fair was sold. Buyers and salesmen originate from the USA. The konsekrierte communion wafer was offered on 9 April for a call price of 100 dollar (77 euros). On 11 April the body of Christ for 2000 dollar (approximately 1550 euros) changed the owner. Four persons along-ordered with the auction.

On e-bay published sales text:

In order to say it directly: I am not catholic and do not believe not that I will drive into hell, because I sell this Kleinod. If someone wants to thus send a message to me, in order to say to me this, he is not to waste its time. The message is deleted, before it is read.

With the communion wafer Johannes Paul acts II. you is a genuine Eucharist around a Erinnerungsstück to a large afternoon with Pope, which I of the Pope fair, at which I to 18. October 1998 participated, up-saved. I consumed the first communion wafer, then I decreased/went back and got a further for waiving. The priest threw thereby a very bad view to me!

I studied one term in Florenz. Some from us drove to Rome, in order to participate in a Pope fair. I am not catholic. But I found everything very interesting. Beside the communion wafer I possess also the Begleitbüchlein for the fair and the ticket. Everything is drawn up in Italian language. I possess also four vatikanische stamps from the year 1998.

In addition a bottle opener, which I bought to 1992 with another Rome visit, belongs to me. If I understood that correctly, an article is blessed automatically, which one holds in the hand, if Pope Johannes Paul II. speaks with the fair in a certain instant. I held the bottle opener during a fair with the Pope in the year 1992 in the hand. It carries the picture of the Pope on and a picture of the Trevi well on the other side.


The articles from the year 1998 - the communion wafer, the Begleitbüchlein for the fair, the ticket and the stamps - were inserted since in plastics in my note pad. They were exposed hardly to the light or air.

Everything is in a super condition. I believe, the offer am extremely rare for understandable reasons.


A medal man, who is active for years in the Vatikan, pointed out in this connection that the unworthy practice of the coming union from division represents a large annoyance during the Pope fairs for a long time. Dozens of priests divided the holy coming union usually in largest crowding out. Frequently communion wafers were on the other hand passed on by a believer, because it could difficult in the crowding be attained the priest.

Before approximately fifteen years also the hand coming union introduced to the Vatikan let the situation degenerate completely. Naturally it gave always already abuses with the Altarsakrament, meant the priest: But the hand coming union opened door and gate for these abuses.

Today the abuses with the holy coming union by the reference to Christ were beautiful-talked, since this had delivered itself also into the hands of its torturers. But that are - so the Kurienmitarbeiter - „hypocritical sayings of “those, the concern unimportant to which around the Eucharist.

Catholicus: Good advice is not expensive; -)

Dear one Bruno Maria,
please too strongly do not polemisieren, but simply the faith of the church represent. Then the place is here in the forum secured, then I hope for you.
God benediction!

GerdEric: Dear one Bruno Maria

I am pleased sincerely,
that you are again active thereby.

Cordial greetings
Your GerdEric

1+1=7: Again there Bruno is,

recovers fresh after the vacation:)!

Bruno Maria Schulz: Like the traditionalists,

those? to be simply only catholic “(however to be they cannot believe there church and Pope on Abwegen) accused of also Pharisäer Jesus give and reproached to it to admit itself with Sündern.

The wisdom of God however confirmed by all, which are open for it. Pope Johannes Paul II. had this wisdom.

It should omit, which those do not understand, which do not have this wisdom; are held eyes and ears for those?
No! He did much that many will only recognize after their dying as right.

The Islamic world knew better than? catholic “critics that this kiss of the Koran kundtut not at all a confirmation of their opinion, but their acceptance as brothers.

When Jesus was with a Pharisäer to guest, a prostitute came and salbte under tears Jesu head with Nardenöl in the value of a small car ***.
If the Pope would have something similar accepted from similar hand, then the proclamation would have been alike.

Those the tag of the love before itself ago carry, know rarely which love are. Whom little will be assigned, that had little love.

One can only warn to attack the deceased holy father and with him the church because this arranging is arranged doubly. Johannes Paul II. was the first catholic and worthiest deputy Jesu in his church.
Process card 7.31-47 and process card 6,37
*** from restaurant economics on the New Testament of my deceased friend Heinz Schröder

Catholicus: Note to the Korankuss of the Pope

A good acquaintance determined recently:
„The Pope kissed the Koran not in acknowledgment of a wrong view of God, which the Koran fixes, but in love for our brothers, the truth is still locked for who. “
There nevertheless somewhat to it, means Catholicus, which marks nevertheless, could be, which was indication misleadingly and would have will omit to be supposed. But who may itself take the right out from us to therefore condemn the deceased holy father? He already found his barmherzigen judge!

Paul Mayer: Petrusamt

The Petrusamt is not there to change the catholic tradition to unfold but.
, A Korankuss and a Tilak ate on the forehead of the deceased of holy father and many other things correspond to the stop simply not. Letter such as gospel Vitae and Ordinatio Sacerdotalis etc., the lecture 1998 in pc. Pölten e.g. and something similar already.

In all other respects do not keep I the expression happy „to traditionalists “, I am completely simply catholic and cannot stop gladly by force be reprotestantisieren.

MFG, Mrs. Mayer