Wednesday, 2 November 2005 09:33
Will it give a world-wide tridentinische Personalprälatur?
With a lecture a high coworker of the papal commission explained `Ecclesia Dei', that the Vatikan straight on the solution of liturgical questions works.
(, Rome kreuz.net) very optimistically, Mons showed up. Camille Perl at the beginning of of Octobers concerning a world-wide release of the tridentinischen fair.

This reported the English-language monthly magazine appearing in Rome „Inside the dad CAN “on Friday.

The Prälat originating from Luxembourg works since their mechanism in the year 1988 for the commission `Ecclesia Dei'. the commission is entrusted the pastorale providing for catholics, who feel connected the old person fair.

Mons. Perl held Una Voce' a lecture on the occasion of a Roman conference of the international federation `. The conference took place on 8 and 9 October.

The international federation `Una Voce' strives for the 60's around a rehabilitation of the delivered rite.

With its lecture on 9 October Mons brought. Perl the greetings of the president of the commission `Ecclesia Dei', Dario Cardinal Castrillon Hoyos, and explained that the cardinal had done more for the old person Liturgie than any of its three predecessors.

Then Mons said. Perl that the commission stepped out `Ecclesia Dei' since the choice of the new Pope from their shade existence.

Since he for the commission `Ecclesia Dei' work, he was ignored of many people in Rome. That now changed: „In the last months the people stop and to greet me, if I on the road on the way am. “

Mons. Perl - no traditionalist actual might refer particularly on the coworkers of the Roman Kurie, which understand it usually quite well to adapt their personal convictions of the extended-range weather situation.

Then Mons reveals. Perl - after `Inside the Vatican' - its „pieces of news explosivsten “: Theologians, Kirchenrechtler and Liturgiker would concern themselves intensively at present on behalf the Vatikan with liturgical questions.

It goes thereby above all therefore how „the reform of the reform can be taken “to the hand: „One prepares some important things in this area. “

`Inside the Vatican' assumes preliminary work for a new vatikanisches document.

Mons. Perl explained that it could understand itself the Brazilian Diözese Campos as model, how the old person could get rite in the church right of domicile.

The diocese Campos lies in the northeast of Brazil. It was governed from 1949 to 1981 of bishop Antonio de Castro Mayer († 1991). This refused after the second Vatikanum the introduction of the new Liturgie to its Diözese.

Although it already withdrew in the year 1981 as a bishop, it remained further the Oberhirte of the traditionalists of its Diözese, which constitute the largest part of the catholics there with distance.

The Diözese connected itself finally with the priest brother shank pc. Pius X. created by archbishop Marcel Lefèbvre.

After death of bishop Castro Mayer in April 1991 transferred his successor bishop Licinio Rangel the line of the Diözese.

In the year 2002 bishop Rangel an agreement negotiated with Rome.

On the ground of the diocese Campos a Personaldiözese was created, which carries the name `Apostoli Administratur of the holy Johannes Maria von Vianney'.

After death of bishop Rangel in December 2002 bishop Fernando Arêas Rifan (55) became new administrator.

Mons. Perl did not give a clear answer on the question, how the Diözese Campos for Rome could serve as model. At present the solution seems to be in Campos rather a working hypothesis.

Nevertheless it is not to exclude - so `Inside the Vatican' - that the question of the world-wide Zelebration of the old persons fair with a Personalprälatur is solved.

The only church organization, which got so far such a status lent, is the Opus Dei.
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Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:59
Benedikt: @ God hard
tell nevertheless times over „the liturgical Wildsauereien of “your minister.

Forget it. Anonymity brings it here with itself that nobody can know, around whom it acts. Do not blacken is. And in order to say it clearly: It does not act around abuses, as one receives it off country on country, but rather around liturgical Lieblosigkeiten. For these the minister cannot do probably nothing at all, because also an education and a training question are. Otherwise it acts around a outstanding Seelsorger, which is extremely more integer and to which the municipality has to owe some. It is however now times like that for me „acre celebrandi “the important aspect is. That cannot offer the minister, but one could not itself bake ever an ideal priest. The priest is also humans with errors and inadequacies, so also here.

@ husband
I owing to for the benediction and wish you also God rich benedictions. Perhaps we will still experience clarifying the whole Causa FSSPX, tradition etc.…
Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:44
Le Trot: @Gotthard
A coming union aide is everything but a nincompoop… your attitude falls under the term of the time-mental Häresie.

158. The extraordinary donor of the holy coming union may out-divide the coming union only if priests or deacon are missing, if the priest is prevented for another serious reason by illness, because of advanced age or, or if the believers, which in addition-step to the coming union, are so numerous that the measuring celebration would pull itself too much into the length. [259] This must be understood however in such a way that an extension short in accordance with the local habits and customs is a completely insufficient reason.

Yes, the indispensable aide flax, which intervene and beyond that whenever the spirit lots it means that it is not to be expected the believer 10 minutes on the GENTLEMAN to wait. The same „believers “and approving „liturgical wild pigs “line up however gladly for hours, if there is somewhere a special offer at the rooting tables of the world.
Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:24
God hard: Trottelig
A coming union aide is everything but a nincompoop… your attitude falls under the term of the time-mental Häresie.
Sunday, 6 November 2005 22:15
Le Trot: @Gotthard
tell nevertheless times over „the liturgical Wildsauereien of “your minister.

Thus, if you were asked for example of your minister as a layman the coming union to also out-assign and this please followed, - you would be for me one in the altar area jumping „liturgical game sow. “
Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:11
God hard: liturgical game sow… @Benedikt
tell nevertheless times over „the liturgical Wildsauereien of “your minister.
Sunday, 6 November 2005 21:04
Evelin: @ Benedikt - locked and opened doors
Which you write, makes happy me. Perhaps - at the latest - after your study other possibilities result. Sometimes doors are opened for one also unexpectedly.

E.g. the door was opened for me to bishop Krenn, came however by these („door “) with representatives of the tradition into contact, however very different.

By a faith step I came with rather charismatic gesinnten Lebensschützern into contact, under it also my later wife, who was however Traditionalistin already at that time (thus not typically for the group).

Likewise it was later among other things with FSSPX. Certain doors in the V2-Kirche for me had closed (passably, unfruhtbar did not prove).

Anyhow God benediction for your further striving in Christ.

The husband of the Evelin
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