A Crashkurs in theological-liturgical minimum formation would have been for the responsible persons `of the Tagesschau' German Swiss of the television a useful Christmas present.

(, Zurich kreuz.net) in the main expenditure `of the Tagesschau' from 25 December that tried German Swiss remotelongs to inform its spectators also about the ceremonies to Christ birth.

Under the title „Christmas in Switzerland “reported the regional transmitter by means of a traditional formulation that in many churches of Switzerland „the traditional midnight fair “had been read.

As example one called the reformed church in Hemberg. The place is in the canton pc. Gallen, 50 kilometers east of Zurich.

„Fair “and „fair read “with the Protestants?

The television consumer Josef H. doubts came. It made itself on the search and became in „the Schmalkaldi articles “from the year 1537 found.

This concerns the only confession writing written by Martin Luther. The Reformator wrote it on behalf the Saxonian cure prince Johann Friedrich.

There one can read in the article over the papistische fair the following,

„that the fair must be in the papacy the largest and most terrible atrocities, which stracks and enormously against this major item strives and nevertheless over and before all other papal Abgöttereien the highest and most beautiful was.

Because it is held [= believed] that such victims or work the fair - also by bad boys done - which helps humans of sins both, here in the life and there in the purgatory, which is to do nevertheless alone the lamb of God and must like already said etc.

And where reasonable Papisten was, one could talk so and kindly with them, i.e.:

Why did they at the fair keep nevertheless so firm?

1. It is nevertheless a loud Menschenfündlein, from God required. And we may fall let all Menschenfündlein, like Christ speak Mt 15,9: „You serve me in vain with people requirements “.

2. On the other hand it is an unnecessary thing, which one can leave without Sunde and danger well.

3. To third one knows the Sakrament much better and blessed-proves after Christ installation to get. What ist's that one wanted to force for an unnecessary, erdichteten thing, since man's otherwise probably and more blessedly can have the world in misery and emergency?

One lets preach the people publicly, as the fair may be omitted as a Menschentand without sin and nobody is condemned, which does not respect her, but without fair in better way may become blessed probably probably.

What gilt's, whether the fair will then not fall from itself, not alone with the mad Pöbel, but also with all pious, Christian, reasonable, gottesfürchtigen hearts? Many more, if they would hear that it erdichtet a dangerous thing actual without God will and invented. “

But at least German Swiss the television remained thank God exempted from such doubtful texts.

Therefore there the catholics receive the communion, while the Protestants read courageously the fair - as if it would have never given the reformation.

Benedikt: @ Interwld

It surprises me only that the Protestants become absolutely our fair and the coming union certified, if this is after their founder nevertheless such an atrocity.

Most Protestants are today mile far distant from Luther's theory, against what Luther was catholic, than it is today some bishop.

If it really does not concern Lutheraner, then the theory of the Reformators cares the Protestant little. And in such a way Fr. Kässmann lästert further over the drain, although it means with Luther: „Who speaks against the truth of the apostolischen drain, which is rejected and curses. “(Thesis 71)

One could say thus: Fr. Kässmann is occupied with the lutherischen Anathema

Ms Ilse: @Zwingli and Luther

The knowledge of the Protestantism failed here already a little lean - announce themselves however here also firm catholic to word. If they have however no notion, then they should be silent better.
Zwingli began to preach independently of Luther 1516 its theology. It oriented itself later at Luther, but its own positions not given up and these to the reformed church of Switzerland passed on.
The protestant fair is designated not only sometimes, depending upon region, then; in Hanover the Liturgie is even sung. There one can recognize every now and then the difference to the catholic fair only by „the working clothes “and by it that it is a Mrs. Pfarrerin, who holds the service.
The Protestant churches are not stop so fearfully and advisablely also not directly in panic, if one designates times somewhat differently or falls back to old rites, as long as it serves the honour of God. In some reformed churches of Zurich, in the forcing left country, also again dedicating smoke is thus used, without the service visitors flee frightened from the church. The Protestants to need can see and correct stop times of errors in theology and Liturgie. For some catholics the world order partially already breaks down, if one takes the communion wafer with the hand or takes bread for it. As if that Christ would be not completely all the same!!!

Pink lime tree: Only five?

Does that stand somewhere, or does come sometime a text?
That is with the abundance at articles and reader opinions which can be criticized a little little. System could be natural. The protection formula „morally precariously “might lead probably also to some deletions (e.g. in „the abortion debate “).

GerdEric: Me kreuz.net pleases also

because here I may write five contributions per day…

Pink lime tree: HiHi: -)

kreuz.net catches at me to please, somehow has it which from descriptive stories instruction. It did not know that the Protestants the Abstinenz was attributed by the fair and thought actually that the Reinkarnation Jesus in Oblate and wine (whereby that actually which blasphemisches, if not kannibalisches has…) by the Protestants it is not believed why also not to hl. Coming union to participate may do.

Nólimon: From another lutherischen confession writing:

„One puts the Unsern with injustice on (it throws… forwards) that they are to have dismissed the fair. Because that is obvious that the fair is held, without talking fame with us with larger devotion and Ernst than with the adversaries. So also the people with highest diligence to the more frequent mark informed in front holy Sakrament, to which it is assigned and like it to be used to comfort i.e. the frightened consciences thereby whereby the people is pulled to the coming union and fair… “
Augsburgi confession article XXIV