As the first woman in the choir area danced to the cathedral
The bishop of Basel answered recently the usual questions to the woman surgery and to the priest marriage. He spoke also about liturgical dances and its task in „most difficult diocese of the world “.

The bishop of Basel resides in the city Solothurn - 40 kilometers south of Basel.
The journalist reminds at the beginning of the discussion of so-called „hopeful indications “with the assumption of office of the bishop before ten years.
At that time for example a woman swung the dance leg for the first time in the choir area of the cathedral.
The bishop explains as that he wanted to show that it gives different forms of the prayer and that also a dance can quite serve the reverence of the service.
That was also in this February the case, when he invited the medal communities into the Diözese after Solothurn: „Indian medal sisters likewise specified a dance there, in order to represent to it Ordensgelübde in such a way. “
He sees therein no connection to a woman surgery: „Dancing is not a privilege of the office, but a prayer form, which stands for all baptized men and women openly. “
It was always it a large request to merge the women also into the church line structures. One can read off this also from that in each Regionaldekanat of the diocese a woman is present in the guidance and also in the Bischöflichen Ordinariat a woman in the office for personnel and two participated in the Pastoralamt:
„If I the situation grasp, give it correctly in the diocese administration proportionally even to more women than for example in financial committees. “
The woman surgery is against it an affair of the total church:
„Above all Pope Johannes Paul IITH already statements about the impossibility of the woman surgery made, needs it surely serious reasons there, in order to discuss this question again. “
That means that this topic can again be rolled up only by a council.
As the question of the so-called priest marriage Mons explains. Cook that it „“in Rome state the request again and again. It points out in Rome also that the strained church personnel situation will lead into a difficult future.
Responded in the case of the suspended ex-Pfarradministrators of Röschenz the bishop explains that the problem of Röschenz does not cause splitting in the diocese made, but one visible long smoldering.
Since the diocese Basel does not have a medium organ, it is for better or for worse delivered the media as a bishop.
Then the bishop is asked, why he called his Diözese before two years - to the 175-Jahr-Jubiläum of the diocese Basel - the most difficult of the world.
The bishop explains that this statement of Pope Gregor XVI. already in the first half 19. Century made is. For this statement the Pope must have had its reasons:
„And I have also today under other circumstances not many reasons to contradict it. “
In addition the bishop refers to the composition of his Diözese. The diocese consists of a German and a französischsprachigen part and extends - with approximately one million believer - over ten cantons away.
A special difficulty consists of that the national church-legal institutions - which means: the administration of the church tax - kantonal are regular.
Thus a bishop must communicate during the conversion of diözesaner requests with ten different so-called regional churches.
The question like it its task as a bishop understands, answers Mons. Cook with a picture:
„The bishop must look that he can bring all the different developments, tendencies and currents in his diocese under a hat. And above all it must watch out thereby that the hat becomes not too large, otherwise falls it one over the head, and then one sees as well known nothing at all more. “
© picture: cathcon
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Sunday, 30 April 2006 11:42
Gunsenum: Dance Mariechen!
@benedikt78
Why this fear of contact?
I find the Einwurf of more @JörgGuttenberger, to Cologne nevertheless very informative.
If something can serve for the praise of God, if humans liked to express their gratitude by a dance, if they knispelnden us dedicate-smoke-through-acidified Central European Christian new, alive forms of the God admiration show and teach may - where is the problem?
The meaning „all-comprehensively “in the catholic one encloses nevertheless also such topics. In Ethiopia the dance belongs to the service, part of the Liturgie. If it there in the honour of God been enough - where is our problem?
The Einwurf „Technoparty “in the church is simply only populist and „far fetched “.
Why this fear of contact?
I find the Einwurf of more @JörgGuttenberger, to Cologne nevertheless very informative.
If something can serve for the praise of God, if humans liked to express their gratitude by a dance, if they knispelnden us dedicate-smoke-through-acidified Central European Christian new, alive forms of the God admiration show and teach may - where is the problem?
The meaning „all-comprehensively “in the catholic one encloses nevertheless also such topics. In Ethiopia the dance belongs to the service, part of the Liturgie. If it there in the honour of God been enough - where is our problem?
The Einwurf „Technoparty “in the church is simply only populist and „far fetched “.
Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:24
Ansgar: @ Karl Murx
Thanks for the reference! Indeed notice many believer, which found an impairment to the Vierung place with large fairs only laterally and from there on the altar to look. The appropriate participation is to be looked frontally eastward on the altar. With a tidy fair there nevertheless so much marvelous happens - are which still humans in front dance. No question, the dance as a sign of religious Ekstase or internalizing may have its place. But not during regular services.
Thursday, 20 April 2006 11:16
Benedikt78: Madly!
Then I will organize a Techno party in the church directly for the next weekend. Dance is pray!
Thus I find this discussion absolutely redundant. Each culture has its peculiarities. Like that the fairs are very andächtig in Europe, while one sings loud in Africa and one calls. Perhaps in India one dances, but why one is in Europe so which to also still make?
That is a precarious development! If one in the name of the internationalism, which has world openness and tolerance each muck in the church introduction. At the conclusion it comes actually so far that in the church Techno Parties are celebrated. So far it may not come really!
Thus I find this discussion absolutely redundant. Each culture has its peculiarities. Like that the fairs are very andächtig in Europe, while one sings loud in Africa and one calls. Perhaps in India one dances, but why one is in Europe so which to also still make?
That is a precarious development! If one in the name of the internationalism, which has world openness and tolerance each muck in the church introduction. At the conclusion it comes actually so far that in the church Techno Parties are celebrated. So far it may not come really!
Thursday, 20 April 2006 08:20
expedit: @Brandenburgis
Thanks for the reference!
It will say to my wife, whom I in my last dance hour know learned!
It hopes then only that no Bratpfanne will be in the proximity! (schmunzel!)
Quotation: „19 April 2006 16:23 Brandenburgis: @expeditDer dance is a circle, and in the center the DEVIL stands. (hl. Augustinus) “
It will say to my wife, whom I in my last dance hour know learned!
It hopes then only that no Bratpfanne will be in the proximity! (schmunzel!)
Quotation: „19 April 2006 16:23 Brandenburgis: @expeditDer dance is a circle, and in the center the DEVIL stands. (hl. Augustinus) “
Thursday, 20 April 2006 00:25
Jörg Guttenberger, Cologne: Dance in the Liturgie
The äthipische Liturgie is the only one, in which the dance to today Tradtion has. We were allowed to admire in the context of the row „old person Liturgien in Roman churches of Cologne “, how äthiopische monks danced with Vesper and Eucharistiefeier in the altar area of pc. Kunibert in Cologne and played their percussion instruments. It concerns certainly around no us used dance (in pairs), but walking dances, as they are usual in other form with the Greeks (there exclusive within the everyday range). Under these conditions also (beforeless living persons) a priest and a monk can along-dance heedlessly.
Wednesday, 19 April 2006 22:14
Doritta: Dance in the Liturgie
Humans have to express themselves many forms: Gesturing,
Singing, language. Why not also in the dance? I visited once a very beautiful service with liturgical dance, was real it impressing. The dancers were naturally not mainparticipant inside, it were also none „Perfomance “, but only one December duck the Untermalung. Simply beautifully!
Singing, language. Why not also in the dance? I visited once a very beautiful service with liturgical dance, was real it impressing. The dancers were naturally not mainparticipant inside, it were also none „Perfomance “, but only one December duck the Untermalung. Simply beautifully!
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