In the spring its radio and Internet Apostolat were forbidden to a priest in the USA. The priest obeyed. Now he was appointed the Hilfskaplan in a small home for the elderly.

(, pc. Paul/Minneapolis kreuz.net) still is Hw. Robert Altier (45) Vikar in the Pfarrei pc. Agnes in the Erzdiözese pc. Paul and Minneapolis.

The Diözese is in the US Federal State Minnesota in the central north of the United States.

The Pfarrei pc. Agnes is well-known for its high-standing, latin Liturgie in the Novus Ordo the far beyond borders of the United States.


Hw. Altier is an important catholic voice in St.Paul/Minneapolis and in the United States. It became in pc. Agnes also as Beichtvater and a soul leader admits.

But in the middle of June is its Apostolat in pc. Agnes to the end. Then the priest will begin a new place as Hilfskaplan in a home for the elderly.

`The Desert Voice Web Site', those the priest is close, designated the transfer of the clergyman by the archbishop of pc. Paul/Minneapolis, Mons. Harry Flynn (73), as one „shocking decision “.

At the end of of February had already forbidden to the priest the archbishop publishing its lectures on a web page of believers of pc. Agnes.

Likewise was forbidden to the priest to spread its comments over the catholic broadcasting station `relevantly Radio'.

These decisions seem to be erzbischöfliche retaliatory measures.

In last October Hw had. Altier in a lecture a disputed church program against sexual abuses as „worthlessly “and „terribly “designates.

The program contains anstößiges pictorial material and represents positions, which contradict the natural moral. It was prepared under the responsibility of archbishop Harry Flynn for the US bishop conference.

The notorious abortion network `Planned Parenthood' and radical Homo Aktivisten support contents of the program.

Kaplan Altier bent itself the medium prohibition of the archbishop. He withdrew also the majority of the lectures and audio contributions published in the Internet.

The letter, which it of Mons. Flynn received, showed it to nobody: „Happened from respect opposite the archbishop. It did not require that I keep the letter secret. “

The archbishop acted in the context of his authority, defends Hw. Altier its superior: „I have to obey. “All further lies with Christ and the God mother.

The priest added that its soul was in peacetime, because it knows to fulfill in the obedience the will of God.

To 20. March had explained archbishop Flynn in a public letter that it had forbidden Kaplan Altier the Medienapostolat, so that this can worry better about its tasks in the Pfarrei pc. Agnes.

But the priest had never neglected these tasks. On the contrary. Hw. Altier stands in the call a highly gifted soul leader to be to have spent innumerable hours in the Beichtstuhl to have led many young people on its way into the religious occupation and several hundred persons to the church have bekehrt.

It worries itself also around catholic welfare organizations. For example he is a president of a relief organization for handicapped children in India.

Kaplan Altier leaves the Pfarrei pc. Agnes in the middle of June. It will accept a place as Hilfskaplan in `the Regina Medical Center' in a remote part of the Erzdiözese.

`The Regina Medical Center' is an old people's home with attached hospital for 61 inhabitants. The house is led by sisters. The present Kaplan is a friendly 75jähriger priest, who will further notice its function. Hw. Altier is to stand for it as Hilfskaplan to the side.

In addition a medal sister is full-officially busy for the Seelsorge at the house inhabitants.

The only daily fair in the old people's home is read also further from the present Kaplan. Hilfskaplan Altier will privately celebrate the fair on workdays.

In the Erzdiözese pc. Paul/Minneapolis gives it to 10 to 12 Pfarreien without priests.

In an article of 15. May expressed the US homepage `Spero' their surprise over the procedures in the Erzdiözese pc. Paul/Minneapolis:

„As it is possible that our already older archbishop receives Dankesbekundigungen from the homo ideological rainbow Schärpe movement, because he made himself earned around the promotion of the Homo agenda in the church, while a good, holy and young quite creditor priest such as Hw. Altier in the home for the elderly is sent? “

Isidor: In the diocese meal is called the HartzIV!

In the diocese to meals one does not bring Roman-catholic oriented priests those „Germancatholic “functions completely differently to is silent. With HartzIV! Unemployed announced priest! He comes from another diocese/foreign country and is from its bishop exempted for the employment in the diocese meal and also over 10 years worked benediction-rich there. For nearly 4 years it may not work in the diocese meal any longer. One wants to send it home - there he - also the bishop Dr. Felix Genn is however politically pursued white of it, but he cannot pay him. A scorn! Priest state of emergency does not seem to give it in the diocese to meals. But the golden „calf counts “- that everywhere worshipped in demand by „the own ones “, particularly is the sellout of the real estate.
Another priest became, because he obligation-shifts too Roman-catholic aligned actual with 51 years immediately into the premature retirement!

Which one can still expect exemplary “ground personnel from the Germancatholic church with such one „. Orate of fratres!

virOblationis: Clausula Petri

Count von Galen wrote:
„I remember a place i.d. Hl. Writing, with which it was forbidden the Aposteln by the high advice announcing the gospel. They jumped over themselves over this prohibition. It can thus quite be that it is here permitted or morally required to offer resistance. “
Indeed: „One must obey God more than humans. “(Apg. 5, 29)

stat crux: Psst!

At least 10 indications text…

Dr. Otterbeck: Brought to the silence

does not become the victim character in the NOM (cf. high prayer III), but in satisfying fair.

Benedikt: @ Athanasius1957

Canon romanus in the NOM as Canon I one calls and not Canon veterus

In the Missale from 1970 it means: First high prayer - the Roman measuring canon.

There is further only one canon!

Athanasius: @namensgenosse1957

Correction:

I.I meant, this priest pray the old Roman canon from the tridentinischen Liturgie, thus not the revised Ith Eucharisti high prayer from the N.O.M., but Canon the Romanus in its apostolischen Gregorian form. Thus I know also a priest from Rotterdam, who uses the old canon, with the old sacrificing prayers. It does not take place an acclamation of the Bugnini designers: „Mortem tuum annuntiamus, Domine… “

II. Yes, courageously already. But the mixture of both rites probably hardly leads to something. The priests of the FSSPX those in the meantime the FSSPX relied and for instance with Mgr. Vingt Trois of Paris or in Poitiers inkardinieren left, make also só „the new fair “. Or these read Tridentini hl. Fair completely on French. SO one 1967 fair, or 1965 a fair.

III. Why one does not dare it the whole step back to the old Liturgie to make in the edition 1962 or 1958. „Abhinc Quattuor Annos “(1984) from Johannes Paul II. forbids a mixture of both rites - to few for the few Indult fairs from at that time.