A protestant minister wanted to convert in Sweden and contacted the local bishop. But the Ökumene in danger saw and let the searches further-pull - to priest brother shank the pc. Pius X.

(, Paris kreuz.net) the lutherische minister Sten sand Mark and a friendly, lutherischer theology student will return on 30 July to Paris to the lap of the mother church - with the priest brother shank pc. Pius X.

The reported the French district the priest brother shank pc. Pius X. recently on its homepage.

Already for approximately ten years minister sand Mark relations with the church maintains. In this time the lutherische regional church continued its adjustment to the defaults of the liberals society.

In October 2005 the church Absegnung of the Homo Konkubinates brought the barrel to sand Marks with minister to overflowing.

„All this obligated me morally, of the structure to step out “- the minister before the Swedish press explained.

Otherwise it would make itself jointly guilty than carriercarrier carriers.

Minister sand Mark looked for the catholic faith „in his integrity “, „around his soul to save “.

It contacted with its desire for a conversion the only catholic bishop of the country, Mons. Differently Arborelius (56), that in Stockholm resides.

Bishop Arborelius let itself impress from the request of the Lutheraners little.

The Prälat tried to explain to the minister that Lutheraner and catholics went allegedly as sister churches parallel ways to the universal Christ.

The lutherischen minister seemed it by the rain into the Traufe to be guessed/advised.

In its municipality in the southeastSwedish Oskarshamn it holds the lutherische communion celebration at a high altar. It pushes also at the new fair of Pope Paul VI.

Minister sand Mark explained before the Swedish television: „I could not leave the Luthertum, in order to regain it from the other side. “

Already in September 2005 the minister came into contact with a catholic group, which calls itself `combination of the nations of the Christian Europa'.

This combination organized six old persons fairs in Swedish churches, who establish still in catholic time on the traces holy Brigitta of Sweden († 1373), but became Protestant after the reformation.

One of these holy fairs took place in the church of minister sand Mark.

The minister and a present theology student were from the fair - which was accompanied by a French Gregorialschola - to tears agitated.

After the fair the minister on Latin explained: „Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. “

The conversion of the minister and the theology student will take place on Sunday 30 July during an office for high in that Paris Lefebvristenkirche pc. Nicolas you Chardonnet.

The place of worship was occupied in the year 1977 of the Piusbruderschaft with force and is cared for since then by it.

Both Sweden also with their conversion bedingungsweise become - if its lutherische baptism should have been invalidly - after-baptized.

During the rite they will swear off the lutherischen erring teachings.

Afterwards both want to begin the theology study with the Piusbruderschaft, in order to become afterwards priests.

The former minister sand Mark would like to return later than Missionar to his homeland.

Bernardin †: GOOD BISHOP

Cordial congratulation Mr. bishop! With the discussion with this minister you recognized immediately that it will bring unrest into your Diözese! They recognized that this man is RUECKWAERTSGEWANDT, belonged to who is eternal-of yesterday and already on the way after Econ! Such a priest would have done to the thing Chisti in your region not well, more damage arranged than positive would have constructed!

Cardinal Mazzella: Benedikt: for once with you unite

„Explaining you dopch also times on occasion, why the FSSPX requires the subordination under the Pope, however this subordination withdraws itself. “

Their reference is applicable, because the attitude that FSSPX upper ones is contradictory in this question because it raises a hypothesis to faith truth. Whether one recognizes the council Popes as true Popes or not, both is matters of discretion dh it lies them the evaluation of a wrong behavior to reason. Whether it is sufficient in addition, that, which pretends on the Pope, the follow-up of the holy Petrus to deny, only the modernism not fallen Pope to determine will be able. Doubt about the legal standard of the council Popes to have, is quite however not justified more. A justified doubt has however waiving effect and gives the right to fall back, which is considered as secured and in our case the vorkonziliare teachings.
The Traditionsbegrif of the FSSPX is in no way hanebüchen however nevertheless incompletely, i.e. an explanation need is present.

Benedikt: @ „cardinal “Mazzella

they disproved nothing at all

Disproves? I did not intend to disprove something. Supporters FSSPX have itself here again times over reservations excited, which others opposite them and the brother shank develops and I have only written, for what reason that could be probably like that, nothing else.

That is not catholic ideas, which he represents

Naturally not, clearly. Except the FSSPX naturally nobody is catholic. If one the writings of the Brunderschaftsbischöfe reads in such a way can one however also to another result come. However the completely hahnebüchene Tradtionbegriff of the FSSPX: They look for each other a certain date, on my account the 1.1.1951 and explain that off now no changes are more permitted, since this corresponds to the tradition. This tradition term is not catholic. In the church the things were in the river, changes by Popes were always standard, about which the Hl. Pius Xth loosely certification to give can. Before the Pharisäerbischöfen he would find today no grace surely.

Explain dopch also times on occasion, why the FSSPX requires the subordination under the Pope, however withdraws itself from this subordination.

Cardinal Mazzella: Benediklt

they disproved nothing at all and I recommend to you the Ratzingers view of church to study Eucharist and sin. That is not catholic ideas, which he represents, and if bishop de Mallerais criticizes him, then he does it in knowledge of the thing

Athanasius: @Benedikt

Material Häresie, which it can still withdraw and/or correct, but! Tissier did not say further.

It is indeed a neurosis, particularly more conservative on the part of “Novus Ordo catholic to out-border the FSSPX of the Roman-catholic church there:

1. The Hl. Chair clear-set several times that it concerns not a formal Schisma that the FSSPX believers are Roman catholics that the FSSPX is and remains an internal affair.

2. One however much against the vorkonziliaren theories concerning religion state relationship „resists “, thus these rejects that one really asks oneself, whether the Novus Ordo catholic would not have formed a separate community in imitation of the old catholics 1962 ago. Probably not, because these see conservative, thus not completely apostatischen, Novus Ordo catholic the holy father as someone, which stands over the divine excessive quantity and unpunished can contradict its predecessors and change simply the faith can, also still without sin are. That was 1962 ago a pious misunderstanding creditor of the holy dogma of Vaticanum I., now becomes it however the calamity for the church in the fight against the relativism, modernism and liberalism.

Benedikt: @ Dr. Regazzoni

That the FSSPX should be a splitting off from the catholic church, is a fantasy product and/or. a neurosis of the V 2 ideologists.

In view of the interviews, the Mgr. Tissier de Mallerais etc. every few months give, more exactly said because of contents of these interviews have themselves the Piusbruderschaft such reproaches to themselves to attribute. The self-pity, with some FSSPXler the reproaches regard is laughful. Afterwards they are jubilant again to their bishop too, because it accused the Pope of in an interview of the Häresie.