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Europe sits in a fatal trap. Debt to it are politicians, who do not see the reality before loud ideology any longer: The whole seems to be a bad joke.
(kreuz.net/CDL, Münster) „it is frightening, as one of the main causes of the demographic misery of Europe is persistent ignored: still the abortion numbers high in all countries. “The explained Monika Hoffmann - the medium-assigned with `the Christian democrats for the Leben' - recent in a statement:
Also in Germany the discussion must be led across even by the state financially supported the high child abortion ratio publicly and with more honesty.
Mrs. Hoffmann
commentated with its statement at present the establishment forced in Brussels one „European committee for reproduction questions “.
Officially presently an abortion comes into Germany on five births.
Before further fiscal funds of the European Union were spent to witness artificially children something was to be finally done that the child abortion does not stand there any more than simple solution in difficult life situations - so Mrs. Hoffmann.
On the other hand the promotion of in-vitro-Fertilisation and the associated demand are after permission of the Präimplantationsdiagnostik forbidden in Germany an extremely precarious way.
With likewise by the founders of the Präimplantationsdiagnostik endorsed embryonic children of a genetic quality control are submitted of such committee.
Children, who do not meet the criteria, land in the waste.
„This occupies the whole schizophrenia of the current discussion: on the one side stands a young, often alone-let mother, that cannot accept their unborn child and it lets drive off. On the other side it gives more and more pairs, which let a healthy child produce with the help of the medical technology. “
Additionally the adoption numbers sank well under 5000 per year.
On the occasion of the symposium `of the Christian democrats for the Leben' in Berlin „“the renowned Bielefelder population researcher professor Herwig presented children desire and reality saves a plausible description of the problem:
Germany would have actually no demographic problem, if for decades the driven off children would live today - in such a way professor save.
„We must understand finally that we not by more research, but particularly by more support of the recent pairs the readiness for a life with children to promote to be able. “
In addition Mrs. Hoffmann mentions the newest study `Robert Bosch Stiftung', according to which each fourth young man and each seventh young woman no more children wants:
„That means that consciousness for the value of a life with children frightening strongly missing. “
`The Christian democrats for the Leben' are a life right initiative within the CDU/CSU.
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6 of 27 reader opinions:Sunday, 23 July 2006 10:10
DDL: @Abu…
„Since when Pädophilie is not normally or less normal than homosexuality for you? That would be me which completely which new! But please, I congratulate! “
If you had read times exactly `, what I had written, instead of each mark already after the first line loszulästern, you would have seen that I had called Pädophilie at no time „normally “. On the one hand this inclination is still many more rarely than anyway already not normal (i.S. the Gauss bath tub curve, mind you) homosexuality, on the other hand exists the fundamental difference in the fact that after our level of knowledge and/or within our social standards sexuality between adults and children for the latters are to be assumed as harmful.
To that extent Pädophilie is completely surely not „normal “. The paedophile however are in principle `times completely normal humans, and so for a long time he anybody with its inclination does not harm (speak: it does not realize), exists also no cause to schmeißen itself with friendly appropriating á la „Perversling “or such a thing that one hears here pretty often, in order.
With homosexuality Katholens put nevertheless always as a large value on the difference between inclination and practice - as wär's, you dearer `times with Pädophilie, thus there, wo's are relevant, would consider?
You could problem-free already have seen all this from my earlier contributions. But you were too interested probably to rant against „the Perversen “.
If you had read times exactly `, what I had written, instead of each mark already after the first line loszulästern, you would have seen that I had called Pädophilie at no time „normally “. On the one hand this inclination is still many more rarely than anyway already not normal (i.S. the Gauss bath tub curve, mind you) homosexuality, on the other hand exists the fundamental difference in the fact that after our level of knowledge and/or within our social standards sexuality between adults and children for the latters are to be assumed as harmful.
To that extent Pädophilie is completely surely not „normal “. The paedophile however are in principle `times completely normal humans, and so for a long time he anybody with its inclination does not harm (speak: it does not realize), exists also no cause to schmeißen itself with friendly appropriating á la „Perversling “or such a thing that one hears here pretty often, in order.
With homosexuality Katholens put nevertheless always as a large value on the difference between inclination and practice - as wär's, you dearer `times with Pädophilie, thus there, wo's are relevant, would consider?
You could problem-free already have seen all this from my earlier contributions. But you were too interested probably to rant against „the Perversen “.
Sunday, 23 July 2006 08:14
franco.felice: „One cannot positively use the word negro “?
One calls it thus African. Why? Does that address not also the skin color?
Who says that he must come from Africa. Can be born nevertheless everywhere. In an American airplane, then he becomes automatically American. And then one calls it Afroamerikaner. And what does one recognize that? Always at the skin color.
Doesn't that discriminate against it? My God, then let the negro negro be; completely like Abu saw it in the Black Forest. Abu will not have addressed the somewhat dark-more membranous gentleman probably with „Mr. Neger “.
And - Shakespeares „Othello, the Mohr rewritten by Venice “in: „Othello, the African of Venice “?
„Ladies and Gentlemen, dear negroes “, one subordinated Heinrich Luebke to have said. The Ne… - pardon! African would probably have received this with them own the leaving and cordialness smiling and would not have corrected the white chieftain.
Who says that he must come from Africa. Can be born nevertheless everywhere. In an American airplane, then he becomes automatically American. And then one calls it Afroamerikaner. And what does one recognize that? Always at the skin color.
Doesn't that discriminate against it? My God, then let the negro negro be; completely like Abu saw it in the Black Forest. Abu will not have addressed the somewhat dark-more membranous gentleman probably with „Mr. Neger “.
And - Shakespeares „Othello, the Mohr rewritten by Venice “in: „Othello, the African of Venice “?
„Ladies and Gentlemen, dear negroes “, one subordinated Heinrich Luebke to have said. The Ne… - pardon! African would probably have received this with them own the leaving and cordialness smiling and would not have corrected the white chieftain.
Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:59
Abu: @ deusexmachina
The Etymologie and the meaning change of „barbarian “have meanwhile few thousands culture on the embossment, the imbecility with words like „negro, Mohr, gypsy “and which white I still all 60-30 years. „The culture developed since then “will be smiled at and despised in few decades, as it already of me and other one smiled at and despised is. It is „the culture of death “, the Lemminge, the reproduction-indignant and - incapable Hedonisten. I would not know, why I should follow or subject this historical mosquito.
Before the culture of the negroes, Turk, gypsy, Arab I have respect, before this here only in certain foundations, which are in shrinking: Christianity, West - Basic Law, human rights (in their original sense).
Since when is Pädophilie not normally or less normal than homosexuality for you? That would be me which completely which new! But please, I congratulate! More of it, ask!
Before the culture of the negroes, Turk, gypsy, Arab I have respect, before this here only in certain foundations, which are in shrinking: Christianity, West - Basic Law, human rights (in their original sense).
Since when is Pädophilie not normally or less normal than homosexuality for you? That would be me which completely which new! But please, I congratulate! More of it, ask!
Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:35
deusexmachina: @Abu - you do not want to understand
Putzigerweise lead you your own argumentation ad absurdum:
„The word comes from the Niger = black and is nothing else as latin German, like that as Negritude etc. in France. It is not called „idiot “or „barbarian “. “
Merrily, not? There you do not endeavor another word, for which one could lead accurately the same etymologischen arguments into the field, as base factor place its Negativkonnotation however in agreement, but avail yourselves of their even: „Barbarian “was originally also `times „a completely normal word “, which was not necessarily negatively meant. If you call today one someone „barbarians “, he will let you know without a doubt, what he holds from such linguistic usage, and that probably very clearly and/or, depending upon circumstances, legally.
What does actually in such a way pain to you to use a not negatively konnotiertes word?
By the way, aporopos „its opinion about its insolences to know leave someone “: I do hereby regarding your assumption in things „the Pädophilie “. I glaub', it beeps, my best one?
We summarize: They find simply in such a way certain groups of people sch… to e that you want not to be able to be taken it, to lend to this condemnation also in the designation expression. It „Christian “.
„The word comes from the Niger = black and is nothing else as latin German, like that as Negritude etc. in France. It is not called „idiot “or „barbarian “. “
Merrily, not? There you do not endeavor another word, for which one could lead accurately the same etymologischen arguments into the field, as base factor place its Negativkonnotation however in agreement, but avail yourselves of their even: „Barbarian “was originally also `times „a completely normal word “, which was not necessarily negatively meant. If you call today one someone „barbarians “, he will let you know without a doubt, what he holds from such linguistic usage, and that probably very clearly and/or, depending upon circumstances, legally.
What does actually in such a way pain to you to use a not negatively konnotiertes word?
By the way, aporopos „its opinion about its insolences to know leave someone “: I do hereby regarding your assumption in things „the Pädophilie “. I glaub', it beeps, my best one?
We summarize: They find simply in such a way certain groups of people sch… to e that you want not to be able to be taken it, to lend to this condemnation also in the designation expression. It „Christian “.
Thursday, 20 July 2006 15:07
Abu: Negro?
There is a Konnotation only, if she is meant. Anyhow in private speaking. If I write a slogan, I do not write the word naturally. The origin of banishing this word is the American „Nigger “, in addition, there „Negroe “was common, from the negroes themselves (Negroe Spiritual). We had colonies in Africa, we in Germany had racism, but we did not have significantly aggressive or discriminating handling negroes. There were hardly which. To that extent the US language police import is here remarkably dumb intimate.
African do not know usually German and Americans just as little. If they learn it, it them will be cordially all the same, how they call people, which are not ill-deliberate them, it are, important door and language policeman funnels them the rubbish in. The word comes from the Niger = black and is nothing else as latin German, like that as Negritude etc. in France. It is not called „idiot “or „barbarian “.
The consent, of which you speak here, may not be just as normal in your circles as homosexuality and Pädophilie, in my is normal that everything. That the media the rubbish go through are clear. Here, in this discussion, he does not contribute anything.
African do not know usually German and Americans just as little. If they learn it, it them will be cordially all the same, how they call people, which are not ill-deliberate them, it are, important door and language policeman funnels them the rubbish in. The word comes from the Niger = black and is nothing else as latin German, like that as Negritude etc. in France. It is not called „idiot “or „barbarian “.
The consent, of which you speak here, may not be just as normal in your circles as homosexuality and Pädophilie, in my is normal that everything. That the media the rubbish go through are clear. Here, in this discussion, he does not contribute anything.
Thursday, 20 July 2006 13:31
DDL: @Abu - „negroes “
The term „negroes “is generally felt today as adverse, primarily from in such a way designated ones, to which one should grant (at least) the role one primus inter of pares, if it concerns the question, how they want to be called/be supposed. The only one, those the term without Negativkonnotation use ABILITY (whereby also with them as Negativum the POSSIBLE is), are the concerning themselves, which can respond themselves slangweise `times (positively) with „you're A mean more nigger “.
They are right, also I still „negroes “as „completely normally “became acquainted with. Man realized later however that in this linguistic usage a hidden racism through-dragged itself. Look at the old term „Mongoloismus “for „Trisomie 21 “(down syndrome), there it a similar learning process gave yourselves.
The use of the word „negroes “is today wrongly and strongly negatively afflicted. If you contradict that and appoint yourselves to a private definition, place yourselves outside of the social standard - about, as if you would maintain, you „asshole personal “as Kosewort would mean. Try fun for the sake of `times opposite a policeman.
Traditionalismus - also linguistic - is beautiful and good, but in the extreme he leads to errors, since he leads himself finally to the offence against newer, meanwhile formed having, rules and arbitrarily at the time X picks out a basic rate for the calculation of employer's contribution set by the Länder and when misunderstands eternal truth.
They are right, also I still „negroes “as „completely normally “became acquainted with. Man realized later however that in this linguistic usage a hidden racism through-dragged itself. Look at the old term „Mongoloismus “for „Trisomie 21 “(down syndrome), there it a similar learning process gave yourselves.
The use of the word „negroes “is today wrongly and strongly negatively afflicted. If you contradict that and appoint yourselves to a private definition, place yourselves outside of the social standard - about, as if you would maintain, you „asshole personal “as Kosewort would mean. Try fun for the sake of `times opposite a policeman.
Traditionalismus - also linguistic - is beautiful and good, but in the extreme he leads to errors, since he leads himself finally to the offence against newer, meanwhile formed having, rules and arbitrarily at the time X picks out a basic rate for the calculation of employer's contribution set by the Länder and when misunderstands eternal truth.
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