Russian-orthodox annoyance in Great Britain
The ecumenical movement steps at present into a new phase: the Ökumene in the own house. It is urgently necessary with the orthodox ones.

Therein it communicated to the Patriarchen that it had loose-said itself of the jurisdiction of Moscow and had turned to the patriarchy of Konstantinopel.
Up to this time bishop Osborne was administrator of the so-called Diözese of Sourozh. It acts thereby around the Russian-orthodox Diözese in Great Britain and Ireland.
The Diözese was designated after one bishop seat any longer not existing on the peninsula Krim in the present Ukraine.
The British-Irish Diözese of Sourozh had been created 1962 of Metropolit Anthony Bloom († 2003).
After its death bishop Osborne was used as administrator. Osborne is an American born in Egypt, who came before forty years to Great Britain.
Its waste of Moscow did not remain unpunished. Already in May suspended Alexij II. the bishop. In his place archbishop Innokentij Wasiljew of Korsun as transition administrator was used.
Diözese of Korsun the jurisdiction range of the Muscovites of patriarchy in Western Europe is called.
Bishop Osborne left his place not in Minne, but requested its priests and deacons to add it. The call so far nine of the 34 Russian-orthodox Pfarreien in Great Britain followed.
They followed `the Patriarchalen Exarchat of orthodox Pfarreien of the Russian tradition in Westeuropa'. Its center is in Paris. The Exarchat - management - stands under the jurisdiction of the Patriarchen of Konstantinopel.
Unrests with the Russian-orthodox in Great Britain did not come surprisingly.
Already for a long time the Diözese stood of Sourozh in the call to maintain a anglikanische form of the Orthodoxie.
The Diözese, in which many converted English Anglikaner are resident, developed in the years of the iron curtain very independently.
In it somewhat more liberal customs than in prevail the Muscovite patriarchy. Also there are smaller liturgical deviations.
By the influx of Russian-speaking orthodox believers, which did not want to resign themselves to isolated special customs in the Diözese, it partly came to tensions.
The outlet of bishop Osborne came thus not completely under.
As it seems, it was received of the holy Synod of the patriarchy of Konstantinopel in Istanbul with open arms.
Bishop Osborne was accepted on 8 June without the canonically necessary letters of resignation to the new jurisdiction and without the Russians would have been informed.
Few days later the holy Synod protested of Moscow against it and requested bishop Osborne to explain itself with a meeting from 17 July in Moscow.
But Osborne struck the invitation into the wind. It is no longer in Great Britain, but is in the meantime bishop von Amphipolis in Greece.
To past Monday also archbishop Innokentij - the new administrator of Sourozh - in a Hirtenbrief addressed itself to the there believers.
Therein the archbishop explains that bishop Basil Osborne belongs due to the decision Muscovites of the holy Synod still to the Russian church. It is however suspended.
Innokentij calls all believers - without prejudice to its nationality and its cultural background - to the church unit.
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Friday, 29 December 2006 14:20
nightlight20022001 †: Each tree is recognized by its fruit!
As can require their catholic that the whole Christianity dances after your whistle. Thus I can understand also the Russian orthodox church, if she does not go through at this approach to the Roman church.
You appoint you on the word of Christ at Petrus “on this rock want I mean church to build! „With it the mountain Zion is meant and not the vatikanische hill. „Hills will not have to yield, but my word! “
Galater chapter 2 as however Kephas after Antiochia came, resisted I it in the face, because it was reason to the complaint against it. Because before some of Jakobus came, he ate with the heaths; when they came however, he withdrew himself and separated, because he was afraid from the Judentum. (Petrus committed also errors like each humans.) know its catholic at all whether Petrus of an opinion with you is?
Dan 7.11 I noticed on around the large speeches sake, which the horn talked, and I saw, how the animal was killed and its body died and was thrown in the fire.
Dan 7.20 and over the ten horns on its head (revealing chapter 17) and over the other horn, which erupted, before which failed three; and it had eyes and a muzzle, which talked large hiring, and was larger than the horns, which were beside it.
With the animal the heidnische Roman realm is not meant, like it the catholics understands and the ways of this world, but the fourth last animal is meant with it. Read: Daniel 7,8/7,11/7,20/7,21/8,8/8,9/8,12/8,21/Sacharia 2,4=Babylonier
You appoint you on the word of Christ at Petrus “on this rock want I mean church to build! „With it the mountain Zion is meant and not the vatikanische hill. „Hills will not have to yield, but my word! “
Galater chapter 2 as however Kephas after Antiochia came, resisted I it in the face, because it was reason to the complaint against it. Because before some of Jakobus came, he ate with the heaths; when they came however, he withdrew himself and separated, because he was afraid from the Judentum. (Petrus committed also errors like each humans.) know its catholic at all whether Petrus of an opinion with you is?
Dan 7.11 I noticed on around the large speeches sake, which the horn talked, and I saw, how the animal was killed and its body died and was thrown in the fire.
Dan 7.20 and over the ten horns on its head (revealing chapter 17) and over the other horn, which erupted, before which failed three; and it had eyes and a muzzle, which talked large hiring, and was larger than the horns, which were beside it.
With the animal the heidnische Roman realm is not meant, like it the catholics understands and the ways of this world, but the fourth last animal is meant with it. Read: Daniel 7,8/7,11/7,20/7,21/8,8/8,9/8,12/8,21/Sacharia 2,4=Babylonier
Sunday, 30 July 2006 01:56
Guntram: oh
our Godehardchen hats us times given, the favourite of the modernists, the spiritful Zampano.
Friday, 28 July 2006 23:30
God hard: dummschwätzen
maledica stop has a neurosis - a Lehmann neurosis… therefore is this Dummschätzerin also not seriously to take…
Friday, 28 July 2006 21:37
Jörg Guttenberger, Cologne: Orthodoxie in England
What has Lehmann with that Russian to othodoxen church in England to do?
That someone into the Orthodoxie already once the Jurusdiktion does not change is completely unusual. That such a change has its reasons, understands itself automatically. Thus, please no Aufgregung, in-special not the Ökumene endeavors!
That someone into the Orthodoxie already once the Jurusdiktion does not change is completely unusual. That such a change has its reasons, understands itself automatically. Thus, please no Aufgregung, in-special not the Ökumene endeavors!
Friday, 28 July 2006 17:16
Maledica: Carneval Lehmensch
How one can take Lehmensch at all seriously!
The heaths do not take the church in Mainz seriously, since everything is permitted, only not catholic its.
As a manager it failed completely, because it ruined and into the bankruptcy drove its enterprise completely, but further immense sums are spent, in order to convert still intact catholic churches into spiritless council shelters.
As Hirte it failed still more deplorably.
As Showmaster it is also bad, because with the griesgrämigen Fratze look even the Protestants in their Schicksalhaftigkeit more released!!!
I find it shameful and for a Christian human being unworthily like abschätzig her again and again of cardinal Lehmann talk. Harm.
The heaths do not take the church in Mainz seriously, since everything is permitted, only not catholic its.
As a manager it failed completely, because it ruined and into the bankruptcy drove its enterprise completely, but further immense sums are spent, in order to convert still intact catholic churches into spiritless council shelters.
As Hirte it failed still more deplorably.
As Showmaster it is also bad, because with the griesgrämigen Fratze look even the Protestants in their Schicksalhaftigkeit more released!!!
I find it shameful and for a Christian human being unworthily like abschätzig her again and again of cardinal Lehmann talk. Harm.
Friday, 28 July 2006 17:03
Guntram: beautiful latin saying
still nothing proves. It is at the most one self-deception over present church realities
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