The case of the former dean of Gulpen/Gronsveld could bring even the Diözesanbischof in difficulties.

(, Gulpen) Hw kreuz.net. Joep Haffmans (63) former dean of Gulpen/Gronsveld in the Netherlands diocese Roermond sinks ever more in its scandals.

The reported the Netherlands daily paper `Dagblad de Limburger' on Wednesday.

Gulpen and Gronsveld are appropriate for the city Maastricht in the southNetherlands province Limburg, few kilometers east.

At present even the examining magistrate determines against Hw. Haffmans - among other things because of tax evasion.

The case of the priest was brought by its alleged ex-girlfriend (50) in rolling. It had accused of it solid funds from an arm cash in the Pfarrei to have stolen.

`The Aachener Zeitung' knew on Wednesday that the dean on the pulpit had been „a custom-strict hardliner “. But it seems that it led privately a Lotterleben.

On 22 July the alleged ex-girlfriend of the priest expanded its accusations.

It wanted the bishop von Roermond, Mons. Fray to Wiertz, make responsible for a desire epidemic, with which it was stuck on according to own data by dean Haffmans.

In opinion of the ex-girlfriend the bishop von Roermond for the infection is jointly responsible, because it is incumbent on him to ensure that its priests obeyed the Zölibat.

The lady explained also to be sexually abused by the dean „“because it had been to it in a subordinate position.

A speaker of the diocese stated against it that the bishop had never given to the priest permission for a relationship with the lady and of it also nothing had known. The dean always denied such a relationship with demands.

But in the meantime is Hw. Haffmans the Liaison admitted. At least indirectly. Thus its attorney, it explained an open secret had been that the priest had twice per month with the Mrs. Umgang.

Since to a correct soap opera also a murder belongs, it spreads the ex-boyfriends also that Hw. Haffmans it threatened to kill their son if she is not silent.

It is unclear, why the lady broke her silence. `The Dagblad de Limburger' knows that dean Haffmans is to have maintained during the time with it obviously still with further Mrs. Kontakte.

On the other hand `the Aachener Zeitung' quoted an alleged statement of Hw. Starting from Blijlevens - the former rector of the theology university in Heerlen, 25 northeast from Maastricht.

The rector is to have already warned in the 70's year before a consecration Haffmans to the priest.

As reason it is to have indicated „the obvious homosexuality “of the dedicating candidate.

Levit: @ Asbeel

I see that differently. Surely the requirements are highly at us Christians and we them also not always to fulfill to be able, this also our gentleman and welfare and foresaw and saw. It made us in addition, the way for the reversal possible, is open this to us always. The Christian teachings are not simple to fulfill - it is however fulfillable. I do not want micht as super - holy ones to represent, I have also many weaknesses and errors, but the sense is that we are to improve gradually. If we would have come already perfectly to the world, the whole ground connection life would be actually useless. Make for what then still experiences? How is one to grow? etc.
The actual problem, then I think, lie in the Zölibat, it am in my eyes an unnatural condition, which is also not really required by the holy writing.
I do not find it well that the catholic church represents its values and does not yield, only with the Zölibat should one differently act, it am a good condition for the priests. In addition to one then priests could with marriage problems much better advise, for example… naja… can one either way see.

Asbeel: …

A healthy faith has self realization for condition.

The acceptance that „intimate turn upward “a in-itself-look and - Horchen makes redundant, is wrong, leads to an untenable supernaturalism, an obsessional neurosis.

Therefore strictly religious humans are always also a Neurotiker, a Verleugner of its

The Christianity from the outset placed to high demands at humans, who make excessive demands of humans in its possibilities by far and restrain him mentally.

The Christian Ideeal of humans out-who-selected, with perfection, without wrongly and blames is, is not fulfillable, from there lives the Christian in by-one-ends sin problems it last end to tear up threatens.

The consequence of this harmful conflict is that Christian Heuchlertum, in truth only one valve is around the high Christian requirements to be been sufficient.

23er Hansl: Why doesn't that surprise me now at all?

that the dean on the pulpit was „a custom-strict hardliner “. But it seems that it led privately a Lotterleben.
Isn't it like that the custom-strict are always the true black sheep?
A priest, who stands to a relationship, becomes rausgeschmissen. One, that it denied, keeps the alimony paid in some dioceses even still.
Now surely again some will say, the latter is better and first only the bad effects of V2 or the new fair. Really do not believe they that.
It gave historians long before the IITH Vatikanum already, considered it particularly remarkable, if a priest adhered coincidentally times to the Zölibat!

Karl Murx † - 15: 47: 21: After 28 JPII?

Now, of that we were also used to some.

Jawohl!: Sündenpfuhl

Refuse dumps of the 70's. Thank God after 28 years JP2 some changed there. And B16 continues this line consistently, sees the document from the last autumn!

Sulpicius: @Philo

Obviously homosexual or several friends?

Jo, it obviously imagined: Little one bi, never harms!