Saturday, 19 August 2006 08:48
cross messages
Births during the Pope fair + two dead ones on Friday + an example of many + the next step? + a night telephone call
Births during the Pope fair

Germany. In Regensburg four or five mothers want to bear their children, during Pope Benedikt XVI. on the Islinger field the fair reads. The confirmed the planning-assigned of the diocese yesterday Friday. A mother inquired also directly with the Diözese whether on 12 September a birth is possible on the Pope meadow. The medical supply during the Pope fair contains also births: „If someone absolutely wants, is in any case prepared we. “

Two dead ones on Friday

Holy country. On Friday tomorrow the Israeli army killed two humans in close proximity to Bethlehem - 8 kilometers south of Jerusalem -. Into eye-witnesses more than fifty Israeli crew soldiers with 15 military vehicles penetrated into the area east the city Bethlehem and opened the fire on two Palestinians at the age of 24 and 32 years. The two died finally by the rocket bombardment from an unmanned drone. They were allegedly members of an Islamic self-defense organization.

An example of many

Italy. A klausurierter convention of Augustinerschwestern in Rome accommodated 1942 and 1944 political refugees from Germany and Jew between. That comes out according to a report of the Turiner daily paper `La Stampa' from a recently discovered old diary of a nun not specified. The instruction to the mother Oberin to open exceptionally the monastery gates came of Pope Pius XII. personally. The Oberin held papers ready also falsified for its guests. Church institutions in Rome took up thousands during the war of pursued Jews. Even in the private dwellings of the Pope in Castel Gandolfo Jews were accommodated.

The next step?

On 12 August a Christian radio in France asked itself whether one had to absolutely name Jesus Christ the expression son of God. The reported the conservative blog `Le salon Beige'. one risks with this title to excite with the Muselmanen impact and provoke negative reactions. That would unfortunate be in opinion of the radio, since a modern Islam at breaking open was present.

A night telephone call

Holy country. Last Wednesday at 01.00 o'clock Abdel Scha'ath (31) became - a Aktivst of the al-Aqsa Martyr's Brigades - of an Israeli officer on its mobile phone called. The officer instructed him to evacuate its parents' house in Khan Yunis - 25 kilometers southwest of Gaza city - because it is destroyed shortly. Scha'ath was not in the house. It warned around it its family by telephone. The inhabitants of the dreistöckigen house tried to flee in the darkness - in the area was power failure -. A flier destroyed only fifteen minutes after the first call the house. The 69jährige family man as well as to be 45jähriger Sohn Hasan of ten meters were killed far away from the house of cement parts. Three humans were injured. Five houses in the closely settled residential area were damaged.

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Friday, 25 August 2006 23:08
Dsmfilioque is decided of no council. In the original version of Nikaia and Konstantinopel it heut „Qui ex patre procedit “. The council of Ferara Florenz wanted to find only one formula, which makes the filioque for the Byzantiner acceptable.
Monday, 21 August 2006 17:04
Christian Hüller: Who here is all son?
Yes, matte is right, it is a son and/or a child of God. One would hardly believe it, but it is true.

We can be only glad that it does not stress to use this title also in the christologischen sense. Because would have to probably laugh then some here in this forum nothing more.

But as a son of God it has also the right to refer on the nature equality of the son (=Christus) with the father.
Monday, 21 August 2006 16:58
matt: @murx
how can you dare it as a bare creature the statements Jesu self-righteously to umzuinterpretieren here? Which measures it itself actually on? If you would grant yourselves that divine potential to possess, whose I praise myself, you such speeches became certainly - even if they were erroneous - are entitled. So however the creature contradicts itself in its speech and means more there to be than it is, by wanting to know so exactly over the relationship of father and son and its condition.

I say: People like you are Heuchler. And I state again: I am son of God.
Monday, 21 August 2006 09:43
Karl Murx † - 1: 19: 34: 57: The dear matte expresses itself as Anthroposoph
Or on my account rose cruisers, or Theosoph etc.

Interesting: only the son is not really eternally and the father konsubstantiell, now is we Gods at one time.

God is our father, thus that we become adoptive sons of God in the grace. This grace becomes us by the human being-nascent son assigns, and sons we remain evenly only, even if we are and remain in the grace, for which nobody has a warranty. When Jesus said of its enemies, „you are Gods “(Joh. ), that was improper meant 10,34, as becomes clear already from the connection. Because it the son, is in the actual sense God, and those, which receive the word of God, become „Gods “by sharing.

The dear matte is pleading to call the name of its sect to break its own inauguration stage and also the secret thus its doctrine completely to state here. It cannot however, because it must veil that „the everyday ones “and because he is afraid the sanctions and the curse of its „brothers “. He can us once to tell, how „the divine light sparks “, for which he holds himself, into its body came. We wait on the complete exposure of its gnostischen Äonenspekulation.

Then matte does also, as if he would speculate mystery-guessing/advising upon the Dreifaltigkeit, as if he would have to win only clarity. The truth is: it reproaches to us its secret teachings.
Sunday, 20 August 2006 22:27
Benedikt: @ Murx
Crucially Abbé de Cacqueray, is nor Schmidberger, still Mgr in this connection that now for weeks nobody noticed into the FSSPX this mistake, neither. Tissier de Malleray.

Mgr. Tissier de Mallerais recognizes only Häresien, which he wants to recognize and where it wants to recognize which. Whether which are actually present are all the same. In the case it would have used, thus also it evenly nothing no comment. The sentence would have come of any bishop, where we could ourselves have made all happy on a 10-lateral essay in the next MT.
Sunday, 20 August 2006 21:19
matt: @murx
you are nevertheless not kindisch!

Do you I believe hold yourselves for a bare creature? We Christians are nevertheless all the children, thus the sons and daughters of God, or why about we pray otherwise: Father ours in the sky??? Explain to me that times. Jesus says even: „You are Gods “, or know you this place about not? I maintain the same divine potential to possess as also it and I do not see not, why I me in this sense not also as a son of God bez. might.
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