Too early been pleased?
Still the future of the citizens of Berlin pc. Afra church is not secured. Institut pc. Philipp Neri, which administers the church, has the money together. But is not enough.

The future of the institute pc. Philipp Neri in Berlin is still in the Schwebe.
On 23 December Propst Gerald Goe published a prayer call on the homepage of the community.
Propst Goe is Superior of the institute. This concerns a old-ritual community, which leads the citizens of Berlin city center church pc. Afra in unit with the Pope and the local bishop.
A breath-taking donation achievement made it possible that Institut has nearly 300,000 euros for the purchase of the pc. Afra church - the Propst in its recent statement explains.
That is the amount, which the present owners of the church - which Barmherzigen sisters of holy Elizabeth - after the original sales contract on 31 December of this yearly received should.
But now arrive it still on that the sisters let the contract revive again: „It unfortunately seems up to now, as if they are not necessarily ready for it. “
Propst Goe: „We understand disturbing messages in this direction as request to the prayer. At God benedictions everything is convenient. “
On 4 January the Propst will hold a conversation with the sisters with the competent authorities in Rome.
Therefore on this day in pc. Afra will take place at 10.00 o'clock a prayer before the Christmas crib.
„Our uncertainty in human things may let our admiration of the divine child become all the more intimate. “
To the explanation a left is added to texts of the Novene to the divine Jesuskind.
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Friday, 5 January 2007 20:02
Artois †: @bernado
I fear, you followed Petrus into the denial, - the chances that you, as the Johannespassion says „on ein' serious view “turns around stand day after day more badly. Remember that the Gandenzeit runs off! On the Fürsprache hl. Petrus and hl. Sylvesters!
Thursday, 4 January 2007 20:25
Dr. Christoph Heger: @Bernado: „Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia “
That is everything very beautiful, which you say. Only a Dogmatisierung of the view that everywhere is to be always and assumed, what a Pope says or for a policy pursued does not follow from it straight. It does not follow in particular that it is impossible that also a Pope leads a unfortunate regiment, which one must contradict, or that a Pope falls even in Häresie.
The Vaticanum I dogmatisiert only the infallibility of its extraordinary teaching profession. Besides it is probably considered as safe that also the tidy teaching profession is infallibly actual if it over the times in agreement with itself.
That cannot be also different. Because already hl. Paulus had hl. Advance toward Petrus. And in such a way it happened also later repeatedly. The most well-known example is even, Pope Liberius, that hl. Church father Athanasius, which defender of the divine Jesu Christian exkommmunizierte.
MfG
Christian OF Heger
The Vaticanum I dogmatisiert only the infallibility of its extraordinary teaching profession. Besides it is probably considered as safe that also the tidy teaching profession is infallibly actual if it over the times in agreement with itself.
That cannot be also different. Because already hl. Paulus had hl. Advance toward Petrus. And in such a way it happened also later repeatedly. The most well-known example is even, Pope Liberius, that hl. Church father Athanasius, which defender of the divine Jesu Christian exkommmunizierte.
MfG
Christian OF Heger
Thursday, 4 January 2007 13:30
Artois †: @Bernado
They are not anything as a gleichgechaltetes Plappermäulchen!
Thursday, 4 January 2007 10:35
Bernado: @ Dr. Christoph Heger
They wrote: „Taking it to the knowledge that Pope Benedikt has my full acknowledgment (and my sympathy) “
That makes me happy to read. Because a discussion with garage Popes or people, who mean that it is their thing, to recognize the Pope are worthwhile themselves no discussion.
Which concerns now the sentence „Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia “, then this goes on hl. Ambrosius of Milan (Enarr in HP. for 40) back and its for over 1000 years as valid summary that believes the catholic and apostolische church over the Pope, is valid.
This faith was affirmed in a partial aspect by the dogma of the first Vatikanums of 1870 and underlined by the 2nd Vatikanum in „dogma tables the constitution over the church “(esp. sections 8 and 18) as well as supplemented by remarks over the authority of the bishops, who exercise it in unit with the Pope: „With it however the episcopacy one and is undivided, it the holy Petrus to the point of the remaining Apostel placed and in it a always-lasting and visible principle and foundation of the faith unit and the community used. “
That makes me happy to read. Because a discussion with garage Popes or people, who mean that it is their thing, to recognize the Pope are worthwhile themselves no discussion.
Which concerns now the sentence „Ubi Petrus, ibi Ecclesia “, then this goes on hl. Ambrosius of Milan (Enarr in HP. for 40) back and its for over 1000 years as valid summary that believes the catholic and apostolische church over the Pope, is valid.
This faith was affirmed in a partial aspect by the dogma of the first Vatikanums of 1870 and underlined by the 2nd Vatikanum in „dogma tables the constitution over the church “(esp. sections 8 and 18) as well as supplemented by remarks over the authority of the bishops, who exercise it in unit with the Pope: „With it however the episcopacy one and is undivided, it the holy Petrus to the point of the remaining Apostel placed and in it a always-lasting and visible principle and foundation of the faith unit and the community used. “
Wednesday, 3 January 2007 23:20
Dr. Christoph Heger: @Bernado: Unsolicited assumptions
I asked you whether „Ubi Petrus is, ibi ecclesia “a new dogma, and you feel surprised and arise in plentifully impudent assumptions over me, from which most material still this is:
Yes, you go along even still beyond that and to divide the being astonished world that Pope Benedikt XVI. Their sympathy enjoys - even if you are not able to probably recognize it as a Pope fully.
Take to the knowledge that Pope Benedikt has my full acknowledgment (and my sympathy), and are concerned you in discussions more with what your partners say, than with your assumptions over it!
MfG
Christian OF Heger
Yes, you go along even still beyond that and to divide the being astonished world that Pope Benedikt XVI. Their sympathy enjoys - even if you are not able to probably recognize it as a Pope fully.
Take to the knowledge that Pope Benedikt has my full acknowledgment (and my sympathy), and are concerned you in discussions more with what your partners say, than with your assumptions over it!
MfG
Christian OF Heger
Wednesday, 3 January 2007 22:39
VirFortis: it since
but not dear to each other
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