Thursday, 4 October 2007 18:08
From that nothing?
The tactics of the modern ideologists consists of pounding constantly on the human rights and stepping it in practice with feet. By Leo G. Schüchter.
Representation of the “explanation of the people and civil rights” of the French revolution from 26 August 1789
Representation „of the explanation of the people and civil rights “of the French revolution from 26 August 1789
(kreuz.net) it is maintained again and again that the human rights without or against the church were fought for.

Only recently the religion sociologist Hans Joas (59) of the University of Erfurt warmed up the thesis, „the human rights historically from the Christian idea did not develop “.

That said Joas in the context of a lecture before `the central committee of the Germans Katholiken'.

The church newspapers in the north group - about `the Kirchenbote' in the diocese Osnabrück - provided for the spreading of this message.

The thesis that the human rights were born to a certain extent ahistorisch from the reason of the clearing-up, is embodied by the dominant European opinion dictatorship like a basis code.

But history teaches something else.

Into the first half of the 11. Century practiced the heidnischen Wikinger in Norway things how:

utbu - „the Hinausbringen “ill and measure-formed of children into the forest
frilleliv - the sexual privileges of the men too and Vielweiberei
• the blood revenge.

Death of the holy Olav II. in the year 1030
Death of the holy Olav II. in the year 1030
Shortly after the turn of the century the Wikingerhäuptling Olav Haraldsson († 1030), bekehrte to the Christianity, segelte from fjord to fjord and tried to convince the other leaders to accept the Christianity.

Olav holy-spoken as a king Olav II. admits and after its death.

The violent and martial Wikingern appeared the Christianity first as completely wrong.

But the holy Olav reached a change in thinking.

Thus repeated itself with the north men in Norway, Sweden and Iceland, which had happened nine hundred years before in the Roman realm.

At that time the Roman Christians refused themselves to the Gladiatoren plays, rejected slave exploitation, child suspensions and abortions.

The latter was justified even by the large Greek philosopher Aristoteles († 322) in the seventh book of its `Politeia'.

Those resulted from the God even figurativeness of man and woman as well as from the release from Christ.

In this there is neither to Jews nor Greeks, gentlemen or slaves, man or woman, how the holy Paulus in the Galaterbrief writes.

The high Middle Ages spoke of as universal human „dignitas “.

In view of the suppression of the indianischen peoples by the Spanish conquerers the Spanish Scholastik developed in 16. Century a modern right theory.

This stated that the Indians possess the same natural rights as Spaniards.

Statue of the Dominikaners Francisco de Vitoria in Salamanca
Statue of the Dominikaners Francisco de Vitoria in Salamanca
The Dominikanerpater Francisco de Vitoria († 1546) human being and international law in modern terms formulated on scholastischer basis.

Because of its innovative right theory Pater de Vitora is celebrated occasionally as „a father of the international law “. He was the founder of the school of Salamanca.

This thinking and right school expenditure-practiced large influence in the Roman countries. In Protestant powers of central and Northern Europe their thoughts were displaced.

There the English society and state State of John curl († 1704) were regarded as a founder of a modern human right theory.

Curl developed the human rights from the nature right of an original equality and freedom.

The British philosopher John curl († 1704)
The British philosopher John curl († 1704)
The nature right, which precedes the state, recognizes the reason from the creation order. By curl with the reason and God right is equated.

Also in it the Christian origin of the human right tradition shows up.

Curl explained that humans in the course of the socialization deliver only their political origin rights such as an arranging and a deciding for the whole to national power.

The state has to notice these for the well-being of individual humans treuhändlerisch and ensure thus security - otherwise the citizen possesses a resistance right.

Human rights, which remain also after the articles of association with the individual, are after curl:

• the right to lives
• Self-determination over the own worker
• the free order over the compiled fortune.

This English tradition is clearly recognizable in the article 2 „of the explanation of the people and civil rights “of the French revolution from 26 August 1789:

„The goal of each political combination is the preservation of the natural and inalienable human rights. These rights are freedom, property, security and resistance against suppression “.

But the fanatical, anti-church a whispering of Jean Jacques Rousseau and Voltaire threw these beautiful principles in the process of the revolution over the heap.

Therefore the church property was pillaged, buried freedom and security under Robespierres terror and suffocated the life of the citizens in the jakobinischen bloodbath.

© picture statue in Salamanca: Jacob Burckhardt, GNU
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Saturday, 6 October 2007 23:45
Seefeldt: Christ created a church
In order to get that straight here: Christ did not create a church, no more!
And this a church can be only the catholic church, because all splitting off from the catholic church (around splitting off it always acted) are for their part again split (no miracle also that the gap mushroom under the splitting off is virulent).
Like that the Protestants are split into Lutheraner, Zwinglianer, Calvinisten etc., the orthodox ones split into numerous national church communities.

By the way the church did quite well to limit the private reading „of Old Testament “.
Because this writing collection has so their malice.
In other place I described, how fatal the Bible reading affected itself with the conquest of North America, when the Bible-well read Protestants believed themselves in „the praised country “and considered themselves entitled to exterminate the Indians likewise as the Israeliten with the Kanaanitern had done it.

The reading of the two „creation reports “is whether their contradictoryness and occasional falsehood suitably to strengthen the reliability of the church just like some very ugly other places in RK.
Saturday, 6 October 2007 23:17
Brother Theophil: We can see clear,…
… goes where the journey. With Amnesty International also into the free abortion. Mad protection of the human rights…
Friday, 5 October 2007 23:58
Rudolfus: @GerdEric/it always concerns power,
since God is finally the allpowerful, and it also around the God rule goes, both in the old person as well as in the new federation.
Friday, 5 October 2007 23:56
GerdEric: @Rudolfus
well, and of serving the catholics have surely notion…

Only the Geplärre around the Geplärre already shows for which it goes, disputatiousness - POWER!

(Hello Flori, where is the Hundchen )
Friday, 5 October 2007 23:51
Rudolfus: @GerdEric/who first under the Jüngern is
For this Christ answered that he would not have to assign the first place, but its father God, the Christ sent.

Who however first wanted to be, then Christ taught, should have been the servant of all.

Therefore a title of the Petrusnachfolgers reads, from God determined first under the Jüngern, to today servus servo rum Dei (servant of the servants of God).

Christ created the church therefore on Simon Petrus, because God father had chosen him to first.
Friday, 5 October 2007 23:48
Florian Geyer: Gerd Erick - becomes which here actually with them
Do they make with Leblhuber a match who first the Kippa get or which?

shalom
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