Name cousins + cardinals such as Kasper or Lehmann + or bishops such as pure ELT + teeth broken off + Homo concerns

Name cousins

Vatikan. Pope Benedikt XVI. reminded its anniversary - except if the day on one Sunday falls - with the Angelus of yesterday of the holy Karl Borromäus († 1584) on 4 November one celebrates. The May countries archbishop stands for apostolischen eagerness for „brotherly love, clear teachings, and particularly for the prayer “. The Pope called his predecessor, who celebrated its name day on 4 November in this connection. Johannes Paul II. - Karol Wojtyla - was similar the holy Karl Borromäus in much.

Cardinals such as Kasper or Lehmann

Germany. Since yesterday `the Synode of the protestant church meets Deutschlands'. before the Synode spoke the council chairperson of the protestant church, Wolfgang Huber, with the boulevard magazine `Spiegel'. thereby demanded Huber a Ökumene of common spirituality, the mutual respect and common acting in Dresden. The catholic church may not hold longer to its church understanding. But Huber sees with cardinals such as walter Kasper and or Karl Lehmann the will to overcome this condition.

Or bishops such as pure ELT

Germany. In the July of the Glaubenskongregation published letter over the catholic church understanding is with good reason criticized by the Protestants „“. That believes bishop of Dresden, Mons. Joachim pure ELT, in its greeting to the Synode `of the protestant church in Deutschland'. bishop Reinelt reminds of the second Vatikanum, which is „of binding and lasting importance “. Therein the church withdrew allegedly from its requirement that is alone church of Christ „is “- the bishop stated.

Teeth broken off

Austria. Munich the public prosecutor's office tried to deliver a disputed accusation against the Austrian Pornojäger Martin Humer (81) to its Austrian colleagues. But those rejected. The reported `the South German one Zeitung'. Humer is 1,200 euros punishment to pay, because he in a satirical contribution the logo of the National Socialist newspaper `Stürmer' and the expression „welfare Hitler! “had used. On the other hand Humer raised objection. For court hearing on 14 September the pensioner for religious reasons was prevented. Whereupon the judge rejected the objection without farther ado. Against this decision Humer inserted for his part complaint.

Homo concerns

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From the private web page of a Homo Unzüchtigen.
© picture: Fabio Pozzebom/ABr, CC

Count von Galen: Against VII, @ Alkuin

In accordance with the council from Florenz are Häretiker and
Schismatiker excluded from the eternal welfare and
thus thus also the orthodox ones. They can thus
to the catholic church do not belong. There the church
but the mystische body of Christ is and Christ only
a body, can it only one church has give,
which is identical to the catholic.
VII contradicts thus clear above mentioned dogma.
O.g. it does not exclude however that Nichtkatholiken
by the 8th Sakrament, insurmountable mistake
to be saved can.

Alkuin: @Graf of galas

„The church Jesu of Christ in the full sense subsistiert - in such a way cardinal Kasper (ways of the unit. Perspectives for the Ökumene, Freiburg 2005, 60-62. 94-96) - alone in the catholic church. While the orthodox churches are recognized as genuine individual churches, - after Dominus Iesus - the church communities come out from the reformation are not churches in the actual sense. “(Professor Josef Kreiml)

Here full text: http://www.die-tagespost.de/archiv/titel_anzeige.asp?ID=33445

Nothing the defiance I that if a community is not church in the actual sense, do not mean can more logically point the community (EN) the church to be!

Count von Galen: Against VII, @ Alkuin

Ökumenismus decree „Unitatis Redintegratio “:
„Likewise are these separate churches and
Communities troz the lack, them after
adhere to our faith, not without meaning
and weight in the secret of the welfare. “

Decree over the church „lumen Gentium “:
„The only church of Christ subsistiert in kath.
Church “. Is thus to this not identically, otherwise
one would have „is formulated kath. the church “.

Anyhow above mentioned quotations contradict
Dogma „extra ecclesiam nulla salus “.

Alkuin: @Graf of galas:

„VII have the teachings that kath. the church is the church,
amended. “

Where get from that? Only which made VII relevant was the thesis (not dogma) „extra ecclesiam salus non est “related however without of the Absolutheitsanspruch to move away.

A view into differently the council documents shows that the church never and by any means did not change its requirement as of Christ created church (see WELL, UR, data processing).

Olorin †: From the editorship removes

Count von Galen: Against VII, @ Rudolfus

VII the teachings have that kath. the church is the church,
amended. One can naturally say now that it
was for this authorized and by from there itself at that
Theory kath. of the church anything did not change.
This is certainly correct.