The Diözese pc. Pölten threatens a renewal process. In so-called start Workshops one wants to leave the dark past behind itself and to invent a new church as well as a new church baby language.

(, pc. Pölten kreuz.net) in a 16seitigen Hirtenwort has the bishop von St. Pölten, Mons. Klaus Küng, its Diözese recently a comprehensive renewal process threatened.

The preparations in addition are already final.

In next time „a start Workshop is to take place “in each Pfarrei, as Generalvikar Leopold Schagerl in one wrote sending in holprigem German announced.

Terms such as faith, priest and Eucharist do not occur in sending.

A goal of the announced Workshops is, „into the discussion to come with one another “.

To the Workshop the believers at one are to meet „beautiful place “. The circle is recommended as „the best form for open communication “- „everyone is equal in the discussion “.

„The host team sits in the circle or in front, directly beside it/officially the invitation “- the columns published by the Generalvikar for this meeting read.

The organization „of the center is important “.

„Five candles or five cloths with one candle & four tea lights for the five emphasis are recommended, under it a large cloth as symbol for the municipality “.

The five emphasis is to be written and presented according to data of the Generalvikars in each case on a sheet - „those are our emphasis as Christians and Christian inside. “

Wherein the five emphasis lies, sending does not explain.

Therefore there is not to be „a discussion, but exchange and deep becoming acquainted with “.

Necessarily the Generalvikar - „those separate variety and tensions to also bear and permit, come out leave jede/n like that are as more sie/er, with the emergencies, fears, annoyance, in addition, hopes, ideas, joys “- does not go flötet the Prälat in baby language before itself around a consent, explains.

References of the discussion are to be written at one „Flipchart “and summarized in minutes.

„If fast solutions come, which are not in the context of the regulations of the world church “- meant the usually recommended abolition of the Priesterzölibats and the introduction of a woman surgery are obvious - are these proposals to minutes „to the passing on because of the line “are absolutely taken up.

„Silence “- it means in sending - are to fill the organizers „not directly “, but bear „“.

Since one does not know in the Diözese pc. Pölten obviously any longer, what silence is, the term kindly explained: Silence is given then, „if nobody somewhat says “.

At the end of the start Workshops „the tendency is to become obtained “.

In addition the Generalvikar recommends the production of low-cut half cardboard feet: „Everyone gets one [foot] and writes drauf: which is my next step “.

Completely last there is to be also one „feedback round “. This is described literally in such a way in sending:

„if goes each two words “; „if too many or temporally a round with all any longer, everyone on a sheet paper does not go out itself to write leaves, and if still a few minutes time is, spontaneously it asks whom it pushes to express this also publicly which he wrote on his note “.

The last item on the agenda reads: „Discharging & thanking for the commitment that the spirit of God could work “.

To each meeting the so-called host team of the Pfarrei is to send a feedback sheet „filled “to the diözesane „MentorInnen team “.

© frontispiece: Peter Knorr

Hugo: inSt. Pölten fly the Fetzen

Generalvikars resignation is a sad point of conclusion behind 4 a year old obstrusen cardinal plot. Which people dovetail there such as Agsutin and Konsorten for nonsense, goes on no cow skin. There honest humans can take only the hat and abhaun. Dazzled humans have simply no more Gespühr for the important things of the church like „brotherly love, reverence before the next one and above all the truth “. The self-willed design of the decree of the Vaitkan shows, how hate and destruction will can change some humans in their inside. A-attentive observer recognizes however already like also humans this change outward carries.

Rudolfus: One can thank God nevertheless in each case for a rechtgläubig catholic bishop

A bishop, who comes from the Personalprälatur Opus Dei, can be only rechtgläubig catholic.

sani †: This imbecility, like it here…

… one writes on the one hand editorialally, on the other hand one one commentates, can be only written by humans, of r.k. Church as well as no notion have. It is times not catholic now (in the sense of all comprehensive), to meet with chosen Klüngel to a Liturgieshow to call these the true fair and after much dedicating smoke vapor again corroding and geifernd in the Internet to make itself broad.

The whole fantasy of the Seelsorger, which worries about its Schäflein, corresponds at the most still to any booklets of the 50's, has however with today's life reality simply nothing more to do. Admitted: Priest for perhaps 1500 people to be, would be good completely nicely, spielt's however so we no more. The efforts in pc. Pölten may not be perhaps always 100%, but are coined/shaped by the request to keep the church alive.

Me dedicated priests (inside) would be natural, possibly rather marry; but spielt's stop does not voerst, therefore other procedures must ago, in order to retain our catholic church (are often not safe me however then, whether around not even important „catholic Essentiels “auf's play are not set for the discipline of the zölibatären priest, like e.g. Eucharist, Sakrament, sakramental wrote municipality…), but those up there werden's already know

Seminarist: Priest = Seelsorgender point of reference of the pastoralen area…

Nowadays one cannot even rely more on the Opus Dei. There I would have nevertheless from Hw. Dr. Dr. Küng a little more expects, than this pastoraltheologische twaddle á la diocese Limburg.

It form a center - that is so ridiculous that we make now at the most still in the seminar bar around a box the beer.

defendor: What a debile society!

This so-called „renewal process “- a lubricant tragedy comedy more - is also based at security bordering probability in the verlogenen „film scripts “„of the authors of hell “, the freemasons!

More apparently it cannot be any more, how very its poison wants to strew the destructive work!

That sucked „feedback sheet “might probably in the circles of these Kohorten of hell rapid paragraph find!

What a debile society, which the only truth JESUS CHRIST, which pushes LIGHT of the WORLD, „to the side “and thus into deepest darkness shifts!

Florian Geyer: Symptoms

a serious illness which for 40 years by the insanity induced from the outside rampantly grows and unrestrainedly metastasiert. On the basis ill philosophies and their helper on it worked by means of the imbecility the believers mürbe to make as one the radical faith truth a ridiculous conglomerate of pseudohumanistic empty phrases is degradiert. The believer breaks then either to these frustrating Pervertierung or it checks up the background. Knowledge around the truth lets check up and protects against it!