„One needs a robust health, a strong nerve costume and a few like-minded priest friends, otherwise one does not bear. “A land minister in the interview over its priest life.

(kreuz.net) a priest, who seeks to follow its dedicating promises and itself consistently by the church right and the theory of the church holds, will turn out in the Gemeindeseelsorge into heavy conflicts.

Explained ministers the Hendrick Jolie (45) on 5 January before the web page `katholisches'.

The clergyman Mainz is and since ten years ministers of four small Diasporagemeinden in the front Odenwald in close proximity to Darmstadt since 1992 a priest of the diocese.

Hw. Jolie calls the situation of a rechtgläubigen municipality minister steady „dance on the volcano “.

He speaks from own experience: Against it and its discharge of office „already several times “signatures were collected.

Result: „One needs thus a robust health, a strong nerve costume and a few like-minded priest friends, otherwise one does not bear. “

If a priest comes into suspicion, too „split “or too „polarize “, wackle his chair:

„I along-pursued only recently with a Mitbruder from next proximity, when he wanted to proceed in his new municipality against the liturgical uncontrolled growth. In the end it was shifted, although it was undoubted in the right. “

Hw. Jolie calls also a strategy, in order to come out from the defensive:

„It can partly compensate the refusal, which a priest experiences due to his faith-faithful attitude, if he is otherwise” a nice chap “, who worries about the people, with outstanding ones recognition and in particular is popular with children and young people. “

The latters would judge by the heart and not by whether the minister comes in the cross-hatched shirt or into Soutane.

This acknowledgment actual so minister Jolie - a capital, which grants a certain protection to the priest: „However a warranty is that certainly not. “

For the priest this situation has something Skurriles actually: „If people in the Pfarrei, often say they become acquainted with me directly: ” You are completely nice. We had heard completely different things over it. ““

Comment of Hw. Jolie: „That is already nearly comedy ripe, if it were not so sad. “

Despite everything Hw believes. Jolie to be at present in the Pfarrei at the correct place. However it is convinced of that the life reality of the municipality minister is momentarily no advertisement for the priest oh stature:

„Who would like to live in a climate of latent distrust against the catholic Priestertum?

Who wants to do itself it as priests that his authority and authority are permanently doubted as Hirte and a teacher of the municipality?

No Kaffeekränzchen without discussion over Zölibat and misogynicness - who has desire in addition? “

Hw. Jolie criticizes also the so-called „cooperative Pastoral “with its difficult-to-understand „Seelsorgskolchosen “.

He nevertheless sees in priest appointment a large grace: „The Priestertum belongs to the largest one, what the master of its church entrusted. “

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Rudolfus: Gegenpäpste and Häretikerbischöfe gave it at all times

Tarcisius
I did not read anyhow ever from a holy one, which would have celebrated the legitimacy of the holy father and the episcopacy denying in a dwelling schmollend fair.
Gegenpäpste and Häretikerbischöfe gave it at all times, also at times of kanonisierter holy, which partly also erred, which were the Gegenpäpste the valid Pope.

„The Sedisvakantismus “is clear theory of the Pope teaching profession:
see papal training letter Cum ex apostolatus, Paul IV., 1559 (www.KatholischeDokumente.de.tl) -
even if the Sedisvakantismusbehauptung for the last Popes cannot be verified,
and a catholic the Petrusnachfolger in principle not to therefore reject can.
Something else is the obedience question opposite the despotischen Popes Paul VI., in particular in the papal ordered pursuit of the kanonisierten Roman fair pc. Pius' V.,
the Pope Benedikt XVI. 2007 turned off finally,
and thus Lefebvre to the pursued archbishop quite-gave.

Jörg Guttenberger, Cologne: dominus vobiscum

There I agree you. We need to read only the farewell speeches, in order to recognize, the how very unit of its Jüger was to the gentleman because of the heart.

However always results the question, which price we must pay for the unit. When after its eucharistischen speech many left it, it asked the Apostel. „Want to go also to it? “Unit obviously may not go debited to the truth.

dominus vobiscum: more @guttenberger

Voice you too! Splitting, which separates the chaff from wheat, which follows out from the employment for the truth, can in my opinion only welfare SAM be.
It becomes difficult, thinks I, if the separation gets a final character, comparably a Schismas. In my opinion one must do all only possible one, in order to prevent the worst of all punishments, the Exkumminizierung.

Jörg Guttenberger, Cologne: Columns and polarizing

is one of the most primitive reproaches, which are today made for priests!

Each high-level personnel is usually disputed, because nobody can make it for all quite, even God in its omnipotence not.

In all other respects Jesus said Christ, it is to be brought not come around the peace, but the sword! The sword is to be understood here in the sense of the separation. Children their parents and parents their children will deliver around Christian sake, then it is called further.

The Christianity is a religion of the peace („the peace is with you “), but not the Pazifismus! In addition, Jesus Christ „like a lamb to the battle bank led “, it properly blew the Pharisäern and even its Jüngern the march, even the dealers quite palpable from the temple forecourt flogged!

At Jesus the spirit, and at its Jüngern, separates Christ likewise because the young does not stand over its master. Thus the reproach passes to split and polarize clearly sense and text of the writing.

Night lantern: Abortion, pro Familia and CO

Thus God, the gentleman speaks: One says to you: You are a Menschenfresserin and from your own people the children took away. But you are not no more humans to eat and from your own people from any more the children not take away - saying of God, the gentleman.
Ez: 36/13 14

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Slow-acting midday peace on all Threads and would be so favorable the opportunity.