A gehässiges final speech for the Christian love
Old liberals Hinterbänkler, which the spirit of the time from before the day before yesterday attach and as church cold warriors please yourself, ignited recently one of the anti-church media hot cheered Knallpetarde against their Diözesanbischof.
(kreuz.net) the church-hostile local association calls itself somewhat pedantically „Bündnerinnen and Bündner for a reliable church “. Recently it has the bishop von Chur, Mons. Vitus Huonder, an undated open letter sent.
Chur is the capital southeast Swiss of the canton grey federations. „Bündner “is the German designation of the inhabitants of this canton.
The letter is signed of a Urs Willi and a certain Christine Bucher not identified more near.
The grouping consists in the meantime almost exclusively of pensionists. It became in March 1992 of arch-enemies of the current archbishop of Vaduz and bishop at that time von Chur, Mons. Wolfgang Haas, based.
Since the joggle of Mons. Haas as a bishop von Chur by Pope Johannes Paul II. in the year 1997 was polarize-mixes association to a large extent in sinking disappeared.
Cause for its recent rebirth were the names of two possible Churer bishops, who were in circulation brought recently.
In the open letter the grouping gives first a dark and pessimistic evaluation to the situation in the diocese Chur:
„In the management commitees cathedral chapters and bishop advice belong practically all again appointed ones to the conservative, backwards-turned direction on “- into the years the old liberals Nostalgiker come believe.
The bishop tries „obviously “to turn back the wheel of the time behind the second Vatikani council - the group subordinates, without saying, how that should to be able be done practically.
The writers see themselves less critical. They keep themselves actively, committed and unlocked for „“.
The perception of the reality is distorted with the signers also in other ranges.
They do not seem to have noticed that the church is since the second Vatikanum in the open dissolution. Instead they would like the existing conditions in the diocese Chur conservatively to cement and ask the bishop disbelievingly:
„Which are the faith goods and the substance, which were lost in your opinion in the direct future of the council and which require now a conservative turn? “
The Churer Diözese lost mismanagement in the Klerus because of the liberals since the second Vatikanum over 90% of its believers. The today still practicing catholics were church socialized to nearly 100% before the second Vatikanum.
Children, young people and recent families adopted themselves since the liberals circulations in the church nearly completely.
Then the short-sighted association subordinates manichäisch that between „the fascinating message Jesu “and the church right a contrast exist and that its application in principle harms the welfare of the souls:
„Credit you the last sentence in the Codex forgotten, reads there” the highest law is the welfare of the souls “? “- the grouping the bishop roars into the ears.
„The Bündner for a reliable church “tries to draw also the reliability of the mentioned two bishop candidates into the dirt.
Of one of the two the verbissenen church enemies state for example that it „bit “against those allegedly „democratically written regional churches “fights.
Swiss regional churches are of the state wanted bodies controlled by church-far politicians, which the sumptuous church tax incomes to control.
Subsequently, the group draws a further mark on the ears of Mons. Huonder and misses in its past working „of Pope the Johannes XXIII. demanded” aggiornamento “the church “.
Johannes XXIII. a Pope was in the center of the last century.
„Aggiornamento “the association defines the term among other things as „awake consciousness for the challenges of the present “. The latter judges the association by criteria of the late 60's of the last century.
The open letter does not succeed in thus proving that consciousness for the present would be smaller trained with bishop Huonder than with „the Bündnern for a reliable church “.
After much threat message, pessimism, black painting and military command clay/tone inevitably the old liberal reference follows on „the glad message “in the open letter abruptly and:
„It is your task to announce the glad message of the realm of God and not, Rome to please “- the signers instruct the bishop, without hiding their dusty, anti-Roman affect.
Already Pope Johannes XXIII. on the dying bed - „eleven days before its death “- of „the indications of the time “spoke, whereby the letter surveys that Johannes XXIII. likewise a Roman Pope was, who one was not after the diction of the letter obviously „fallen “.
Under „indications of the time “are not „reliably mode currents of the spirit of the time to understand “- the association schulmeistert then:
„A populist spirit of the time Christianity “- how it will in all other respects represent of the association - „soon to a soap blister faith, which schillert, burst and pass “, foresee the signers their fate would decay.
Then identify the letter „the indications of the time “positively with „the modern trend “.
The modern trend is one epoch of the spirit of the time, which went with the end of the large ideologies of the past century to end.
To the conclusion the rabiaten letter writers of the statement are jubilant of Hw. Eugen Biser too, according to which „the Christianity is the declaration of love of God to the world and to humans “.
It harms that Hw. Biser never wrote something of a declaration of love bishop Huonder.
© frontispiece: Joe gold mountain, CC
© picture Mons. Huonder: Diocese Chur
Chur is the capital southeast Swiss of the canton grey federations. „Bündner “is the German designation of the inhabitants of this canton.
The letter is signed of a Urs Willi and a certain Christine Bucher not identified more near.
The grouping consists in the meantime almost exclusively of pensionists. It became in March 1992 of arch-enemies of the current archbishop of Vaduz and bishop at that time von Chur, Mons. Wolfgang Haas, based.
Since the joggle of Mons. Haas as a bishop von Chur by Pope Johannes Paul II. in the year 1997 was polarize-mixes association to a large extent in sinking disappeared.
Cause for its recent rebirth were the names of two possible Churer bishops, who were in circulation brought recently.
In the open letter the grouping gives first a dark and pessimistic evaluation to the situation in the diocese Chur:
„In the management commitees cathedral chapters and bishop advice belong practically all again appointed ones to the conservative, backwards-turned direction on “- into the years the old liberals Nostalgiker come believe.
The bishop tries „obviously “to turn back the wheel of the time behind the second Vatikani council - the group subordinates, without saying, how that should to be able be done practically.
The writers see themselves less critical. They keep themselves actively, committed and unlocked for „“.
The perception of the reality is distorted with the signers also in other ranges.
They do not seem to have noticed that the church is since the second Vatikanum in the open dissolution. Instead they would like the existing conditions in the diocese Chur conservatively to cement and ask the bishop disbelievingly:
„Which are the faith goods and the substance, which were lost in your opinion in the direct future of the council and which require now a conservative turn? “
The Churer Diözese lost mismanagement in the Klerus because of the liberals since the second Vatikanum over 90% of its believers. The today still practicing catholics were church socialized to nearly 100% before the second Vatikanum.
Children, young people and recent families adopted themselves since the liberals circulations in the church nearly completely.
Then the short-sighted association subordinates manichäisch that between „the fascinating message Jesu “and the church right a contrast exist and that its application in principle harms the welfare of the souls:
„Credit you the last sentence in the Codex forgotten, reads there” the highest law is the welfare of the souls “? “- the grouping the bishop roars into the ears.
„The Bündner for a reliable church “tries to draw also the reliability of the mentioned two bishop candidates into the dirt.
Of one of the two the verbissenen church enemies state for example that it „bit “against those allegedly „democratically written regional churches “fights.
Swiss regional churches are of the state wanted bodies controlled by church-far politicians, which the sumptuous church tax incomes to control.
Subsequently, the group draws a further mark on the ears of Mons. Huonder and misses in its past working „of Pope the Johannes XXIII. demanded” aggiornamento “the church “.
Johannes XXIII. a Pope was in the center of the last century.
„Aggiornamento “the association defines the term among other things as „awake consciousness for the challenges of the present “. The latter judges the association by criteria of the late 60's of the last century.
The open letter does not succeed in thus proving that consciousness for the present would be smaller trained with bishop Huonder than with „the Bündnern for a reliable church “.
After much threat message, pessimism, black painting and military command clay/tone inevitably the old liberal reference follows on „the glad message “in the open letter abruptly and:
„It is your task to announce the glad message of the realm of God and not, Rome to please “- the signers instruct the bishop, without hiding their dusty, anti-Roman affect.
Already Pope Johannes XXIII. on the dying bed - „eleven days before its death “- of „the indications of the time “spoke, whereby the letter surveys that Johannes XXIII. likewise a Roman Pope was, who one was not after the diction of the letter obviously „fallen “.
Under „indications of the time “are not „reliably mode currents of the spirit of the time to understand “- the association schulmeistert then:
„A populist spirit of the time Christianity “- how it will in all other respects represent of the association - „soon to a soap blister faith, which schillert, burst and pass “, foresee the signers their fate would decay.
Then identify the letter „the indications of the time “positively with „the modern trend “.
The modern trend is one epoch of the spirit of the time, which went with the end of the large ideologies of the past century to end.
To the conclusion the rabiaten letter writers of the statement are jubilant of Hw. Eugen Biser too, according to which „the Christianity is the declaration of love of God to the world and to humans “.
It harms that Hw. Biser never wrote something of a declaration of love bishop Huonder.
© frontispiece: Joe gold mountain, CC
© picture Mons. Huonder: Diocese Chur
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Tuesday, 22 April 2008 05:57
Night lantern: „One will then go out, around which corpses of those see, which revolted themselves against me. Because…
„One will then go out, around which corpses of those see, which revolted themselves against me. Because the worm in them will not die, and the fire in them will not ever expire; a disgust are they for all world. “Jesaja
Jeremia
„However I go into the court with you, because you say: I did not versündigt myself. How you can be only so easily ready to change your way! “Jer. 2/35 36
„O my body, my body! I wind myself before pain. O of my heart of walls! My heart raves in me; I cannot be silent. “Jer. 4/19
„I made it full, but they drove adultery and were to guest in the Dirnenhaus. Hengste became them, protect and geil, everyone wiehert after the woman of its next one. Shouldn't I punish that - saying of the gentleman - and at such a people no revenge to take? “Jer. 5/7 9
Jeremia
„However I go into the court with you, because you say: I did not versündigt myself. How you can be only so easily ready to change your way! “Jer. 2/35 36
„O my body, my body! I wind myself before pain. O of my heart of walls! My heart raves in me; I cannot be silent. “Jer. 4/19
„I made it full, but they drove adultery and were to guest in the Dirnenhaus. Hengste became them, protect and geil, everyone wiehert after the woman of its next one. Shouldn't I punish that - saying of the gentleman - and at such a people no revenge to take? “Jer. 5/7 9
Monday, 21 April 2008 17:40
ordo62: every time this decaying NIST luggage which does not fit into the stuff
the fairy tale must hold out of the modern Pope.
One should tell to those nevertheless times, the Johannes XXIII like that „badly “was long and its whole (priesterliches) life hl. Fair „with backs read to the people and on latin “.
One should tell to those nevertheless times, the Johannes XXIII like that „badly “was long and its whole (priesterliches) life hl. Fair „with backs read to the people and on latin “.
Monday, 21 April 2008 16:23
clarissa colonia: An interesting thesis!
Are politicians Neutra? - Mental, grammatically, naturally?
Monday, 21 April 2008 16:21
Regina 1961: @Gotthard
Determines looked up in the encyclopedia! But the editorship has determines itself the night around the ears struck…
Regina1961
Regina1961
Monday, 21 April 2008 14:18
God hard: Realization!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Johannes XXIII. a Pope was in the center of the last century.
from where +.net does this upsetting realization have?
from where +.net does this upsetting realization have?
Monday, 21 April 2008 10:24
unteroktav: @politicus helveticum
„You understand also, what you write? “
The question must one with „the articles “indeed often place oneself. But it is always stop the simplest to meet the polemic with polemic instead of leading a genuine discourse. Of it +.net essentially lives.
„Or everything is „church-far “for it, which do not tick according to their pattern? “
Direct hit! And like that at least 99% of the today's catholics of church enemies, modernists, are Sektierer, link, etc.… The <1%, which protect of the genuine, senkrechten/upright/vertical, pious, humiliate catholics - thus the elite - remained still remaining, form as well known the +.net municipality in the largest self-appointed catholic message portal of the universe.
The question must one with „the articles “indeed often place oneself. But it is always stop the simplest to meet the polemic with polemic instead of leading a genuine discourse. Of it +.net essentially lives.
„Or everything is „church-far “for it, which do not tick according to their pattern? “
Direct hit! And like that at least 99% of the today's catholics of church enemies, modernists, are Sektierer, link, etc.… The <1%, which protect of the genuine, senkrechten/upright/vertical, pious, humiliate catholics - thus the elite - remained still remaining, form as well known the +.net municipality in the largest self-appointed catholic message portal of the universe.
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