Main thing of the backs stands to the municipality
Despite Motu Proprio gives it numerous priests, who celebrate the old person fair only in secret. They would like to escape Repressionen from above.
(kreuz.net) „Pater Fuisting stands with the back to the municipality “- the reported Karin M. Erdtmann in an article under the title „solemn or medievally? “
The article appeared in a head sheet `of the Cologne city Anzeigers' and was concerned with the tridentinischen fair in the Altenberger cathedral. This took place on last Friday at 18.00 o'clock.
Mrs. Erdtmann does not seem to be qualified for the reporting over this topic particularly:
„Round fifteen believer established themselves in the Marienkapelle and to wait on an event, which did not give it since forty years in such a way to no more: the fair in the old, extraordinary rite “- it begins its article.
This fair was requested of 29 believers.
For the Zelebration Pater Andreas Fuisting traveled of the Petrusbruderschaft particularly from Duesseldorf, in order to celebrate the fair, which differs particularly by two things from the usual celebration:
„Pater Fuisting speaks Latin and stands usually with the back to the municipality “- Mrs. Erdtmann brings the alleged differences between the two rites somewhat holprig on the alleged point.
If however the only two differences were, then one would have to be surprised at it, why the papal Motu Proprio threw so high waves to the release of the old persons fair.
Mrs. Erdtmann lets unmentioned that all large liturgical traditions of the Christianity celebrate the holy fair to God and know Liturgiesprachen.
It presents the thing black-and-white: „Therein the proponents, a backward step see a” particularly solemn, worthy cult “in the Middle Ages the opponents. “
Since the papal Motu Proprio again old fairs to well hundred churches in Germany „would offer “- like Mrs. Erdtmann expresses itself.
Many priests the old person fair only in the secret one to celebrate, quotes it the layman combination `pro Missa Tridentina'.
They would do that to be able to practice „over in peace and also around Repressionen of Pfarrgemeinderäten to escape Mitbrüdern and the Ordinariat. “
Then Mrs. Erdtmann Kreisdechant Klaus quotes differently of Odenthal: „It is today still the same measuring celebration, only with simplified rites. “
One changed the ceremonies, in which there was one „abundance of Einzelhandlungen, which thought and dearless were often only reeled down. “
The priest lets unmentioned that dearless Herunterspulen a question of the rite and the dearless Herunterspuler were not after the council first, which turned into to the new rite, in order to further-reel there.
It still completely learned the old person rite to know at the edge - the Kreisdechant continues to explain: „However we were glad all that we did not have to exercise it any longer. “
But then the priest means that one is not to play both against each other.
In the old person rite turns the priest with the whole municipality to the gentleman. To the today's rite come allegedly more „the gentleman is in our center “to the expression.
In all other respects give it with it to the Pfarrei Odenthal also latin new measuring book.
That comes for example to the employment, if a priest from the foreign country celebrates, who does not know German.
That most foreign priests still fewer latin can than the Germans, the Kreisdechant conceals and states for it: „Latin is still church language. “
© frontispiece: „Lawrence OI “, CC
The article appeared in a head sheet `of the Cologne city Anzeigers' and was concerned with the tridentinischen fair in the Altenberger cathedral. This took place on last Friday at 18.00 o'clock.
Mrs. Erdtmann does not seem to be qualified for the reporting over this topic particularly:
„Round fifteen believer established themselves in the Marienkapelle and to wait on an event, which did not give it since forty years in such a way to no more: the fair in the old, extraordinary rite “- it begins its article.
This fair was requested of 29 believers.
For the Zelebration Pater Andreas Fuisting traveled of the Petrusbruderschaft particularly from Duesseldorf, in order to celebrate the fair, which differs particularly by two things from the usual celebration:
„Pater Fuisting speaks Latin and stands usually with the back to the municipality “- Mrs. Erdtmann brings the alleged differences between the two rites somewhat holprig on the alleged point.
If however the only two differences were, then one would have to be surprised at it, why the papal Motu Proprio threw so high waves to the release of the old persons fair.
Mrs. Erdtmann lets unmentioned that all large liturgical traditions of the Christianity celebrate the holy fair to God and know Liturgiesprachen.
It presents the thing black-and-white: „Therein the proponents, a backward step see a” particularly solemn, worthy cult “in the Middle Ages the opponents. “
Since the papal Motu Proprio again old fairs to well hundred churches in Germany „would offer “- like Mrs. Erdtmann expresses itself.
Many priests the old person fair only in the secret one to celebrate, quotes it the layman combination `pro Missa Tridentina'.
They would do that to be able to practice „over in peace and also around Repressionen of Pfarrgemeinderäten to escape Mitbrüdern and the Ordinariat. “
Then Mrs. Erdtmann Kreisdechant Klaus quotes differently of Odenthal: „It is today still the same measuring celebration, only with simplified rites. “
One changed the ceremonies, in which there was one „abundance of Einzelhandlungen, which thought and dearless were often only reeled down. “
The priest lets unmentioned that dearless Herunterspulen a question of the rite and the dearless Herunterspuler were not after the council first, which turned into to the new rite, in order to further-reel there.
It still completely learned the old person rite to know at the edge - the Kreisdechant continues to explain: „However we were glad all that we did not have to exercise it any longer. “
But then the priest means that one is not to play both against each other.
In the old person rite turns the priest with the whole municipality to the gentleman. To the today's rite come allegedly more „the gentleman is in our center “to the expression.
In all other respects give it with it to the Pfarrei Odenthal also latin new measuring book.
That comes for example to the employment, if a priest from the foreign country celebrates, who does not know German.
That most foreign priests still fewer latin can than the Germans, the Kreisdechant conceals and states for it: „Latin is still church language. “
© frontispiece: „Lawrence OI “, CC
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Sunday, 11. May 2008 17:06
Benedikt: @ asking
Kreuz.net is afraid a thinking of Christians like the devil the dedicating water…
If like that were, then it would be completely wrong. One must knock against the believers straight to thinking, where they furnished themselves nevertheless long in the dumb-intimate and wrong Konstrukt that the media and certain interested circles spread of religion and church and set absolutely.
If like that were, then it would be completely wrong. One must knock against the believers straight to thinking, where they furnished themselves nevertheless long in the dumb-intimate and wrong Konstrukt that the media and certain interested circles spread of religion and church and set absolutely.
Friday, 9 May 2008 09:25
Heggi: More asking
And you make excessive demands of yourselves! Place nevertheless times at least to questions. But think please before, so that you can place also the correct questions. Is not so simple at all!
Friday, 9 May 2008 01:53
More asking: @ Benedikt
… because kreuz.net wants to suggest not to thinking, separates n pseudocatholic Porpaganda makes. And propaganda belonged blindly believed and does not consider…
Kreuz.net is afraid a thinking of Christians like the devil the dedicating water…
Kreuz.net is afraid a thinking of Christians like the devil the dedicating water…
Thursday, 8 May 2008 20:27
Benedikt: Nerve-killing style
The style becomes ever more nerve-killing. All opinions, which will not fit kreuz.net as „allegedly “or as „statement “dismissed. What wants to actually aim at the editorship thereby? Why do you write not times a tidy comment, instead of to these constantly mix from quotation and evaluation to bring? That would then times be at least a thing, which one could discuss. Thus one receives here only the extremely amazing and surprising realization that there are journalists, who do not understand anything about Liturgie. Of it we experienced now about 50 Aufgüsse, insignificant as the other one. Boringly.
Thursday, 8 May 2008 14:03
Aleph: Practice. practice, practice
They would do that to be able to practice „over in peace and also around Repressionen of Pfarrgemeinderäten to escape Mitbrüdern and the Ordinariat. “
Practice, practice, practice,
only practice makes the master.
Naturally problems could do
emerge whether the geübten fairs
because also valid fairs its
can. And which, if those
Priest itself completely practicing
hang-evenly, while the older
Measuring visitor in the meantime
no more to the extraordinary
Fair to come know, while those
Priest again and again
practice… in all silence naturally.
Practice, practice, practice,
only practice makes the master.
Naturally problems could do
emerge whether the geübten fairs
because also valid fairs its
can. And which, if those
Priest itself completely practicing
hang-evenly, while the older
Measuring visitor in the meantime
no more to the extraordinary
Fair to come know, while those
Priest again and again
practice… in all silence naturally.
Thursday, 8 May 2008 13:16
LandorganistII: After which we for days only Sex articles
to read had, finally times again which to the old fair. +net is soooo exciting.
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