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Woman priests are exkommuniziert + disclaimed + Jews condemn Homo monument + medical miracle + sect against bishop
Woman priests are exkommuniziert
Vatikan. The Glaubenskongregation issued a decree on Thursday to the woman surgery. The text was published in the vatikanischen daily paper `L'Osservatore Romano' on Latin and Italian. It stresses that women, who let themselves be ordinieren are automatically exkommuniziert. Likewise in such surgeries took part with the church spell occupied. The Glaubenskongregation would like to protect nature and the validity of the Weihesakraments with its measure „“.
Disclaimed
Vatikan. Pope Benedikt XVI. the Iranian presidents Mahmud Ahmadinejad (51) is not received in audience. That experienced radio Vatikan out „Vatikankreisen “. Before the Roman daily paper had maintained `La Repubblica' that the Pope Ahmadinejad will meet in the context of the Roman UN world nourishing summit beside other presidents in the Vatikan. In truth the Pope in the surrounding field of this summit will receive not one politician. Otherwise it would give too many inquiries - `radio explains Vatikan'.
Jews condemn Homo monument
Israel. A historian of the Jerusalemer Holocaust memorial place Yad Vashem, Israel Gutman, criticized Rzeczpospolita' a new Homo monument in Berlin sharply before the Polish daily paper `. The historian finds it a scandal, if visitors got the impression that it had not given a large difference between suffering the Jews and those of the homosexuals. Believed Gutman, „the Germans “the extent of the crimes in the third realm would have understood: „This time they made an error. “
Medical miracle
Australia. In Australia a girl was born, who trained herself during the pregnancy in the ovaries of its mother. The child is considered as medical miracle. It was born by Caesarian. Only on this occasion the physician noticed that the girl lay not in the Gebärmutter, but in the right ovary. Ovary pregnancies are rare and arise only in one of 40.000 cases. So far one held it for practically impossible that a child in the ovaries can survive.
Sect against bishop
Switzerland. Bishop Kurt cook of Basel planned on 15 June not as the Firmung in the Pfarrei Kleinlützel to donate. That announced the diocese Basel yesterday. The Pfarrei Kleinlützel is hörig the Sabo sect spread in the diocese Basel. The diocese stated that the bishop its decision pleases „to well-being of the Firmandinnen and Firmanden “had. It follows thereby the desire - sektenhörigen - of the church advice of Kleinlützel. Mons. Cook explained at the same time that donating the Firmung the most characteristic task of the bishop is. The request of the Kirchgemeinderats finds therefore „most precarious the bishop “.
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Vatikan. The Glaubenskongregation issued a decree on Thursday to the woman surgery. The text was published in the vatikanischen daily paper `L'Osservatore Romano' on Latin and Italian. It stresses that women, who let themselves be ordinieren are automatically exkommuniziert. Likewise in such surgeries took part with the church spell occupied. The Glaubenskongregation would like to protect nature and the validity of the Weihesakraments with its measure „“.
Disclaimed
Vatikan. Pope Benedikt XVI. the Iranian presidents Mahmud Ahmadinejad (51) is not received in audience. That experienced radio Vatikan out „Vatikankreisen “. Before the Roman daily paper had maintained `La Repubblica' that the Pope Ahmadinejad will meet in the context of the Roman UN world nourishing summit beside other presidents in the Vatikan. In truth the Pope in the surrounding field of this summit will receive not one politician. Otherwise it would give too many inquiries - `radio explains Vatikan'.
Jews condemn Homo monument
Israel. A historian of the Jerusalemer Holocaust memorial place Yad Vashem, Israel Gutman, criticized Rzeczpospolita' a new Homo monument in Berlin sharply before the Polish daily paper `. The historian finds it a scandal, if visitors got the impression that it had not given a large difference between suffering the Jews and those of the homosexuals. Believed Gutman, „the Germans “the extent of the crimes in the third realm would have understood: „This time they made an error. “
Medical miracle
Australia. In Australia a girl was born, who trained herself during the pregnancy in the ovaries of its mother. The child is considered as medical miracle. It was born by Caesarian. Only on this occasion the physician noticed that the girl lay not in the Gebärmutter, but in the right ovary. Ovary pregnancies are rare and arise only in one of 40.000 cases. So far one held it for practically impossible that a child in the ovaries can survive.
Sect against bishop
Switzerland. Bishop Kurt cook of Basel planned on 15 June not as the Firmung in the Pfarrei Kleinlützel to donate. That announced the diocese Basel yesterday. The Pfarrei Kleinlützel is hörig the Sabo sect spread in the diocese Basel. The diocese stated that the bishop its decision pleases „to well-being of the Firmandinnen and Firmanden “had. It follows thereby the desire - sektenhörigen - of the church advice of Kleinlützel. Mons. Cook explained at the same time that donating the Firmung the most characteristic task of the bishop is. The request of the Kirchgemeinderats finds therefore „most precarious the bishop “.
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Wednesday, 4 June 2008 10:54
Peter Pan: @Benedikt
So one can complicate circumstances artificially. The dismissal from the cleric conditions may be a punishment, but not in the sense of the worldly criminal law, which imposes funds and terms of imprisonment.
I do not see that in such a way. I pursued the change between you and sacerdos helveticus. It seems to prevail in the meantime to agreement over the fact that child abuse - at least by a catholic clergyman committed - is likewise a passing, which is geandet by the church right, like a break of the Sakramente.
The crime here in question, the sexual abuse of persons under age through clergyman is in CAN 1295 § 2 regular: the punishment which can be imposed goes up to the dismissal out of the cleric conditions.
Correctly?
And a priestlicher child abuse is not to be pointed from the hand to that „Frauenpriestertum is obviously many harder bestrafft “, as.
Naturally the catholic church does not have internationally acting police apparatus or Gefägnisse or whatever.
But after catholic teachings a Exkommunikation is the worst punishment, which can impose the church - the worst, which can happen to a catholic. Likewise correctly, or?
Which is thus wrongly to judge the church moral also by when this punishment is imposed, and when one does not consider it attached.
I do not see that in such a way. I pursued the change between you and sacerdos helveticus. It seems to prevail in the meantime to agreement over the fact that child abuse - at least by a catholic clergyman committed - is likewise a passing, which is geandet by the church right, like a break of the Sakramente.
The crime here in question, the sexual abuse of persons under age through clergyman is in CAN 1295 § 2 regular: the punishment which can be imposed goes up to the dismissal out of the cleric conditions.
Correctly?
And a priestlicher child abuse is not to be pointed from the hand to that „Frauenpriestertum is obviously many harder bestrafft “, as.
Naturally the catholic church does not have internationally acting police apparatus or Gefägnisse or whatever.
But after catholic teachings a Exkommunikation is the worst punishment, which can impose the church - the worst, which can happen to a catholic. Likewise correctly, or?
Which is thus wrongly to judge the church moral also by when this punishment is imposed, and when one does not consider it attached.
Tuesday, 3 June 2008 14:12
sacerdos helveticus: Church criminal law @Benedikt
The church criminal law is independent of the worldly right, however there is a regulation, after which the church judge can refrain from a punishment or it can decrease, if the offender were already punished before a worldly court for the same passing.
Is correct that the church does not possess police and no prisons, in addition, against clerics can bans on residence or the instruction of a certain place of residence (e.g. in a monastery or a one „reformatory “for priests) as punishments be imposed (see CAN 1337).
Also fines and/or the achievement of good works or can be imposed (CAN. 1340).
That the church punishes also offenses, which are permitted in the worldly range (e.g. break of the Zölibates), show the independence of the church criminal law.
Is correct that the church does not possess police and no prisons, in addition, against clerics can bans on residence or the instruction of a certain place of residence (e.g. in a monastery or a one „reformatory “for priests) as punishments be imposed (see CAN 1337).
Also fines and/or the achievement of good works or can be imposed (CAN. 1340).
That the church punishes also offenses, which are permitted in the worldly range (e.g. break of the Zölibates), show the independence of the church criminal law.
Tuesday, 3 June 2008 12:20
Benedikt: @ sacerdos helveticus
So one can complicate circumstances artificially. The dismissal from the cleric conditions may be a punishment, but not in the sense of the worldly criminal law, which imposes funds and terms of imprisonment.
The dismissal is only a consequence of the worldly prosecution, will dismiss can, who was validly condemned. Consequently on Exkommunikation does not stand because it concerns an affair of the worldly criminal law. This kind punishment is what one worldly as „serve-legal consequences “(e.g. dismissal from the official conditions with condemnation to Freihheitsstrafe of >12 months - also this regulation is not „criminal law “) would describe, no church punishment.
The dismissal is only a consequence of the worldly prosecution, will dismiss can, who was validly condemned. Consequently on Exkommunikation does not stand because it concerns an affair of the worldly criminal law. This kind punishment is what one worldly as „serve-legal consequences “(e.g. dismissal from the official conditions with condemnation to Freihheitsstrafe of >12 months - also this regulation is not „criminal law “) would describe, no church punishment.
Monday, 2 June 2008 16:01
Ultramontanus: Homo Holo denying
… when are the facts probably introduced?
But in the 3rd realm was HS moderate concerned as on it in the FRG and before it. Is fact.
But in the 3rd realm was HS moderate concerned as on it in the FRG and before it. Is fact.
Monday, 2 June 2008 10:16
EH ago one fan akaFreimaurerin: more @rheinländer
My dear one, you are completely right. Fortunately me that is come up during my Morgenmeditation already. I thought of the Waschmaschinendämonen and had suddenly a vision of rock at a river, on which a langhaarige, singing Nymphe sat. I will guard to hear in the future on someone else than you! Respectful greetings!
Monday, 2 June 2008 09:17
Brandenburgis: There who becomes
relate Jew holo…??
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