Since the publication of the Motu Proprio `Summorum Pontificum' celebrated three of clergyman the fair in their Pfarreien only in the old person rite. They will probably further do it.

(kreuz.net, Novara) the minister of Nibbiola and Garbagna in the northItalian Diözese Novara, Hw. Marco Pizzocchi, was relieved on Sunday of its office.

The reported the appearing three times weekly `Corriere di Novara' on Monday.

The bishop von Novara, Mons. Renato Corti, justified its measure with the will of the priest to want to only celebrate from now on the old person rite.

Therefore he asked it already several times for an office renouncement as a minister:

„I'm sorry that he did not return his office until today. I am obligated to replace it even if I insure it my whole readiness to include it in different way into the priesterliche responsibility. “

The measure concerns also two further priests, the minister of the locality Santa Maria Maggiore, Hw. Alberto Secchi, and the minister of the locality Crevoladossola, Hw. Stefano Coggiola.

Since the entry into force of the Motu Proprios `the three priests had changed Summorum over Pontificum' completely in their Pfarreien to the old person rite.

Therefore they were several times admonished of the bischöflichen Kurie.

„We are not Juke box priests, those once on Latin and then on Italian celebrate “- as it Hw explained. Coggiola and Hw. Secchi.

The bishop decided to send other priests into this Pfarreien in order to read the new fair there.

On past Sunday these neugläubigen clergymen read out a message of the bishop during the Sundays fair, according to which the three ministers of their office were relieved.

However the speech was not from a transfer, with which the three clergymen in their municipalities - however not as ministers - can work probably further.

Regina 1961: @HeinrichvonOfterdingen

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Bernd current mountain: @Monti

The old person fair is not with security the only kind of the God admiration, but it is a raised, a moving and a venerable and has thus its full authorization, which the Hl. Father got straight personally.

For many today unfortunately only the fashionable counts, the instant appropriate. One notices this with so some Zelebration of the ordenlichen custom. This does not have my conviction anything with liturg. To do books, but with a general understanding of Liturgie. Here it giebt different accent setting, which face each other often incompatibly. It would not have had to come in such a way, but after the council much broke down in the Liturgie. This is not a direct consequence of sports club, but many assembled themselves in appointment to the spirit of the council their own Liturgie, which approbierten with the official, from Paul VI Liturgie sometimes only more the expiration together has.

This not the will of the church corresponds, is clear. Remedy can be won only by a absorbed understanding by Liturgie, a new liturgical movement, which succeeds, which sets ingenium for the church-liturgical tradition with the thoughts of sports club in relationship. Above all banality and flattening are the death of the Liturgie, because God is not a subject to space and time, it is transcendentally, infinitely raised and large, it exceeds human thinking around an infinite. And this must express a Liturgie. Tremendum et fascinosum!

monti: @Bernd current mountain

very good statement, which I can only agree.
If I am outward and visit a fair, I would like at least to some extent to know, what comes to me. I am not the opinion that the old person fair is the only possibility to honour God. But with the Altn fair I know at least before that I mean time do not waste. I do not know in a strange city (Pfarrei) with the new fair.
But that is anyway no matter to God hard, main thing, one during one hour well is three-quarter maintained!

Benedikt: Ask?

On past Sunday these neugläubigen clergymen read out a message of the bishop during the Sundays fair, according to which the three ministers of their office were relieved.

Badly. That should have made the bishop, its Generalvikar and the personnel chief.

Bernd current mountain: @Gotthard

As you can imagine, I must contradict you there violently. That each municipality celebrates its own Liturgie, is a large problem. Why? If the holy Liturgie is posed into liking the individual cleric, she becomes dependent on this. And this can be perhaps devastating.

Yes, there are clerics, which I e.g. „the production “of liturgical texts would think capable of. These are in an infinitesimal minority. Because apart from excellent theological knowledge likewise very safe handling the native language must be present as literary size. With the predominant majority works such a thing at best embarrassingly. Too many „plate of products of the instant “come out thereby which could be suitable for the personal prayer as straight, in official actions of the church as foreign bodies work and an embarrassing affectingness leave.

At the formulation of texts and ceremonies - so far one at all writing up to make can - important and outstanding theologians were involved. Look at the texts of the western Liturgien, the Orationen, hymns, etc. clear, give yourselves it also there already times moderate. If each municipality celebrates its Liturgie, one opens however probably usually gate and door for the banal one and the total flattening.

Pluralität gives to adhere tunlichst it only in the context of different rites, within those one to the different books should, if one does not want to make the Liturgie of the church ridiculous.

Leblhuber: To all!

I need stairs in the Thread „double moral record keeping “.

Thanks!