Doubt about Zaitzkofen
Who operates priest training of the fifties, must count to harvest also the fruits of the fifties. A White Paper over the priest training of the German Lefebvristen.
The family Grohe calls itself as the Piusbruderschaft intimate:
„The criticism, which we state here, extends not to faith things, but is limited to affairs of the guidance and the discipline “- it is called introductory.
The information was made only public, after the guidance of the Piusbruderschaft informed about it tried to justify the conditions or play the affair down.
The representation criticized first one „drakonisch over-planned “routine of the day:
„Nearly each day is completely filled out from rising to the sleeping going with obligations and services, which leads every now and then to that in one period of three weeks no one and a half hours coherent spare time are available. “
In the entire week inclusive Sunday plans the house regulation only altogether 3.45 hours personal spare time: „Even this is cut still regular. “
The work load and those the seminarists imposed obligations, services and studies are realistically seen not carry outable:
„The seminarists sees itself often compelling to consult even this extremely limited spare time still to the fulfillment of their tasks. “
For personal prayer and study remains as good as no time, so that a real mental development and development are practically impossible.
„Also before falling asleep one may not read some more, because at 22.00 o'clock the light must be deleted “- so the report further.
It is also forbidden rising before 6.00 o'clock: „A priest said retrospectively on his seminar time in Zaitzkofen that he would not have created it to accommodate the seven father our the holy Birgitta of Sweden in the daily plan. “
These conditions are well-known the responsible persons, however obviously not as seriously problematic were regarded.
`Priesterseminar.info' quotes a March lecture of the general-upper the Piusbruderschaft, Mons. Berne pool of broadcasting corporations Fellay, before the seminarists, which calls and explains the daily plan in the seminar „insanity “that this is good, since none develops „for time delay “.
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6 of 204 reader opinions:Tuesday, 24 June 2008 14:00
Stephanus: If it does not concern more…
when therefore like one brings its day, then is everything in the best way!
Perhaps one should think nevertheless once about whether it would not be not nevertheless meaningful the military service to extend + whether straight also the future theologians in it participate should?!
Perhaps they will be able to do then somewhat faster with respect to handling body and spirit and afterwards also substantial of insignificant one to differentiate.
Under this Vorraussetzungen it would be then also possible to accommodate missing 7 the father our still and also or other work of active brotherly love in addition.
Me is with my numerous stays someone never meets there with foam before the mouth behind its own shade hunted.
The only one which me not so well pleased, was the ausgelatschte main stairs in the old building. However that had again the advantage that one had these with a certain attention fallings and the necessary time had to be able to admire the beauty of old stairway plants.
Also the time was when eating perhaps somewhat scarcely, anyhow one with somewhat more time more from the deliciousnesses of the seminar kitchen have exterminated could. On the other hand I increased each time. From there it a more would have been perhaps nevertheless not so good at time to the meal.
Perhaps everything is well like that as it is and much much better than Anderswo+ it is valid also here the saying wisdom: Thus some finds only therefore a hair in the soup, because he constantly vibrates his head
Perhaps one should think nevertheless once about whether it would not be not nevertheless meaningful the military service to extend + whether straight also the future theologians in it participate should?!
Perhaps they will be able to do then somewhat faster with respect to handling body and spirit and afterwards also substantial of insignificant one to differentiate.
Under this Vorraussetzungen it would be then also possible to accommodate missing 7 the father our still and also or other work of active brotherly love in addition.
Me is with my numerous stays someone never meets there with foam before the mouth behind its own shade hunted.
The only one which me not so well pleased, was the ausgelatschte main stairs in the old building. However that had again the advantage that one had these with a certain attention fallings and the necessary time had to be able to admire the beauty of old stairway plants.
Also the time was when eating perhaps somewhat scarcely, anyhow one with somewhat more time more from the deliciousnesses of the seminar kitchen have exterminated could. On the other hand I increased each time. From there it a more would have been perhaps nevertheless not so good at time to the meal.
Perhaps everything is well like that as it is and much much better than Anderswo+ it is valid also here the saying wisdom: Thus some finds only therefore a hair in the soup, because he constantly vibrates his head
Sunday, 22 June 2008 22:32
God hard: more @Blödelbochumer
A majority at German seminars for priests and - konvikten studying seminarists is practice homosexual.
Proofs ask your enormous accusations against our seminarists with clear proofs!
You are nevertheless an absolute dirt centrifuge…
Proofs ask your enormous accusations against our seminarists with clear proofs!
You are nevertheless an absolute dirt centrifuge…
Sunday, 22 June 2008 22:04
GehtsNoch?: Strangely…
Already somehow strangely: 1980 let Giselbert Grohe of the Federal Constitutional Court state that „at the university pc. Georgen does not become more scholarly catholic theology “.
Now the son comes along and turns the Spieß simply: With the FSSPX is now it the organizational operational sequence.
Laughter detention the behavior and harms that on the stümperhaften website the guest book „“became forgotten
.
Tja, then will not become it with the appointment (if truthfully available) anything…
Now the son comes along and turns the Spieß simply: With the FSSPX is now it the organizational operational sequence.
Laughter detention the behavior and harms that on the stümperhaften website the guest book „“became forgotten
.Tja, then will not become it with the appointment (if truthfully available) anything…
Saturday, 21 June 2008 12:53
ExBochumer †: There a Roman-catholic seminar becomes…
annihilated by a private initiative for personal reasons with doubtful methods.
Were there already once reproaches of the Sodomie in the context of the FSSPX?
However are homosexual-practicing occurences at the agenda. A majority at German seminars for priests and - konvikten studying seminarists is practice homosexual.
These find that also still good „“, because those have to indulge in sufficient spare time and free space over their by verses way of life.
And also presentation seminars - like a überdiözesanes seminar in the German-speaking countries - did not remain exempted from it.
Were there already once reproaches of the Sodomie in the context of the FSSPX?
However are homosexual-practicing occurences at the agenda. A majority at German seminars for priests and - konvikten studying seminarists is practice homosexual.
These find that also still good „“, because those have to indulge in sufficient spare time and free space over their by verses way of life.
And also presentation seminars - like a überdiözesanes seminar in the German-speaking countries - did not remain exempted from it.
Saturday, 21 June 2008 07:41
more r.ruhrgebietler: more @Lutheraner - for that very reason are lutheraner PROTESTANTS
Do you want to be recommended to the Jews as Schnitter? but not nevertheless! Jesus has - thank God - appointments!
Mtt. 13, 29 it spoke: No! on that it wheat with not at the same time ausraufet, thus you ausjätet weeds. Herlich, this passage! An God-obliging/pleasing priest has thus each quantity to do around souls to SAVING!! And supplies consistently:
30Lasset both grow with one another up to the harvest; and at time I want to say to the harvest to the Schnittern: Before weeds collect and bind it in Bündlein that one burns it; but wheat collects me in my scrub. „The time “those is now and here, already started for everyone. Besodners for the small herd of faith-faithful priests! But most of them are not times simple hirelings.
- >12Und it has its throw shovel in the hand: it will sweep its threshing floor and will collect wheat into its barn; but it will burn the chaff with eternal fire. When will Jesus Christ thus sweep the threshing floor, on which the souls are? We may be insured that this time is started for a long time. From itself a bad tree does not bring good fruits.
Their stümperhaften attempt of an interpretation you versemmelt pitifully from lutheranischem Unverstand. For that very reason are lutheraner PROTESTANTS.
Mtt. 13, 29 it spoke: No! on that it wheat with not at the same time ausraufet, thus you ausjätet weeds. Herlich, this passage! An God-obliging/pleasing priest has thus each quantity to do around souls to SAVING!! And supplies consistently:
30Lasset both grow with one another up to the harvest; and at time I want to say to the harvest to the Schnittern: Before weeds collect and bind it in Bündlein that one burns it; but wheat collects me in my scrub. „The time “those is now and here, already started for everyone. Besodners for the small herd of faith-faithful priests! But most of them are not times simple hirelings.
- >12Und it has its throw shovel in the hand: it will sweep its threshing floor and will collect wheat into its barn; but it will burn the chaff with eternal fire. When will Jesus Christ thus sweep the threshing floor, on which the souls are? We may be insured that this time is started for a long time. From itself a bad tree does not bring good fruits.
Their stümperhaften attempt of an interpretation you versemmelt pitifully from lutheranischem Unverstand. For that very reason are lutheraner PROTESTANTS.
Friday, 20 June 2008 21:08
Lutheraner: @ r.ruhrgebietler
it is a benediction FSSPX to have-having those at least still God-obliging/pleasing priests brings out! Commodity Schnitter in the vineyard of the Mr. Jesus Christ, a rock in the surf of the wrong time and the misleading VII. Unfortunately only the few get into the head or to amplifier-change-eat!
Do you want to be recommended to the Jews as Schnitter?
Mtt. 13, 29 it spoke: No! on that it wheat with not at the same time ausraufet, thus you ausjätet weeds. 30Lasset both grow with one another up to the harvest; and at time I want to say to the harvest to the Schnittern: Before weeds collect and bind it in Bündlein that one burns it; but wheat collects me in my scrub.
- >12Und it has its throw shovel in the hand: it will sweep its threshing floor and will collect wheat into its barn; but it will burn the chaff with eternal fire.
Which secular meaning has that probably? Jesus, the Jew king, calls gleichnishaft to establish heaps of failure for the enemies of the rachsüchtigen God, the enemies of its father.
And it Ruhrpotler? Do you hold yourselves for a Schnitter of the GENTLEMAN? Or didn't you understand at all, what them to talk there?
Do you want to be recommended to the Jews as Schnitter?
Mtt. 13, 29 it spoke: No! on that it wheat with not at the same time ausraufet, thus you ausjätet weeds. 30Lasset both grow with one another up to the harvest; and at time I want to say to the harvest to the Schnittern: Before weeds collect and bind it in Bündlein that one burns it; but wheat collects me in my scrub.
- >12Und it has its throw shovel in the hand: it will sweep its threshing floor and will collect wheat into its barn; but it will burn the chaff with eternal fire.
Which secular meaning has that probably? Jesus, the Jew king, calls gleichnishaft to establish heaps of failure for the enemies of the rachsüchtigen God, the enemies of its father.
And it Ruhrpotler? Do you hold yourselves for a Schnitter of the GENTLEMAN? Or didn't you understand at all, what them to talk there?
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